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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:34 pm


I found this quite interesting and though provoking from Here
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Gays and the unborn have an important characteristic in common: In the minds of many people we are considered less than human. And because we are considered less than human, we are not deemed entitled to the basic human rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
There is nothing academic about this comparison. If, as recent scientific discoveries suggest, homosexuality has a genetic basis, the day is not far off when doctors will be able to determine if a child in the womb is predisposed to be gay. Once medical science achieves that ability, it will be possible to do by legal, surgical procedure what all the homophobes and gay-bashers throughout history have tried and failed to do -- to eliminate lesbians and gays once and for all.

As soon as this "final solution" becomes available, a couple that finds gay sexuality an affront to their sensibilities won't have to face up to it -- not in their own family, anyway. Or suppose that the parents-to-be consider themselves to be good liberals. They may still decide that homosexuality is too great a handicap for their unborn son or daughter to carry through life -- or an added complication in child-rearing that they themselves can do without. Why should they borrow trouble when it would be so much easier to try again in the hope of producing a straight child?

The brutality of abortion hits home when you consider that this "procedure" could have snuffed you out before you drew your first breath. When sexual orientation becomes grounds for abortions, it is difficult to argue that a fetus is not human. If we exterminate a fetus because of his or her intrinsic nature, we are acknowledging that that fetus has the qualities of a unique human being.
Pro-choice advocates say that the issue of abortion boils down to a question of whether or not people have the right to do what they choose with their own bodies -- therefore gays and lesbians should be pro-choice. But once abortion is perceived as a legal means of exterminating lesbians and gays, the underlying fallacy of the "pro-choice" position is exposed.
The freedom for each of us to dispose of our bodies as we see fit does not give us the freedom to dispose of someone else's body. No one has the right to decide for others whether they will live or die. Each human life is its own justification for being.

Pro-choicers talk about abortion rights without acknowledging what abortion really is -- a violent act. Stop and consider what happens in an abortion: a human being is ripped apart; then it dies. Doesn't your intuition tell you that something horrible is happening?

America's abortion on demand policy -- the most sweeping of any developed democracy -- says that some lives can be exterminated at will; birth is a privilege reserved for those deemed eligible. While that policy exits, neither gays nor lesbians -- nor, for that matter, the disabled, the elderly, the terminally ill, or any other class of human beings who may be considered "expendable" -- are safe.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:11 pm


Parts were thought provoking and interesting, the gay parts were just ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:08 pm


I edited your post so that it wasn't quoting the first post. Hope you don't mind.

Anyway. What parts did you find ridiculous and why? It's hard to respond with just that. I can't read your mind, you know.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:22 am


That's interesting...but personally I don't see homosexuals as 'less than persons'

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:25 am


That really is very interesting. Thanks for posting it. 3nodding

This is only somewhat related, but why is it that the 'genetic basis' makes it so that homosexuality is not psychological? No offense to them, but it seems to me that genetics can cause psychological problems. Can't insanity run in the family?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:38 am


You can get a lot of things from genetics. That doesn't mean that they're all psychological. xp

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:39 am


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You can get a lot of things from genetics. That doesn't mean that they're all psychological. xp
It doesn't mean it's not. blaugh
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:41 am


Haha but it's been proven that it's not. That used to be a very popular belief though.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:43 am


Where's it been proven? Not trying to be argumentative, just truly want to know... redface
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:45 am


Oh God... it was proven years ago. I'd have to look up links and sources. I'll do so now.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:50 am


http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html

That seems to be a good site. I didn't read it all, I just skimmed.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:17 pm


I like this thread. Quite.. quite a good read. You find the most interesting things to post.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:10 pm


By the way, here's something interesting that relates to your article.

Pro-Choice and Gay.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:50 pm


Good read. Made my eyes roll a couple times though. When will people learn to argue points and not argue over how other people argue? rolleyes Oh wow, some PLAGAL people don't like drag-queens, that REALLY helps your abortion arguement. Please.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:40 pm


all a bunch of circumstantial psychobabble. I still say it's a mental illness.
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