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No Keri, I am not bashing ZADR, but dont read this anyway. You may not like it. wink

ZADR is impossible, and not because it is ‘yucky’ or because I hate yoai pairings. (And I don’t. I just like cannons more.)

I will start why this pairing or any other pairing that involves an Irken is impossible with the main character. That is Zim.

Ground facts about ZIM:

arrow He is Irken.

arrow He is considered to be male by most of the fans and creator.

arrow His parent is a robotic arm, and was born in a factory of some sort.

arrow He doesn’t have a male reproductive organ.

All of that can be proven by episodes and reliable websites. Now let’s focus on two of the facts.

arrow His parent is a robotic arm, and was born in a factory of some sort.

arrow He doesn’t have a male reproductive organ.

Therefore, Zim or any other Irken cannot be involved in intercourse with ANY human. And EVEN IF HE CAN do that, it will STILL be impossible. Keri once made a point of Irkens grow reproductive organs once at a certain height. As much sense as that makes, it still is not enough. (And that cannot be proven)

arrow Humans are 75% percent water.

arrow Water burns Irkens.

Zim found a way to protect his outside, but not his inside. So activities such as kissing and… that…. It would be more painful then pleasurable. It might even be fatal. Heheh, the kiss of death…

The next part of the agreement, I will sound very cold. Even the anti-Zadr people might disagree with me.

Romantic love is not real.

See? That sounded real cold, but let me continue.

According to the book The Four Loves, written by C.S. Lewis, there is four types of love.

The love of God

The love of affection

The love of friendship

The love of lust

I can go on forever about that, but let us stay on task.

“The human mind is generally far more eager to praise and dispraise then to describe and define.”

I am unable to quote much more because the book talks about how god is involved in every occurrence and I don’t want to offend anyone.

So let’s go scientific guys!

Membrane: =D Yay!

There are songs and stories of romance where it speaks of the others sent.

“The smell of you skin still lingers”

“The smell of your hair”

“I have your sent”

And so on and so forth. I wont point out Zim doesn’t have a noise, because that alone is a really dumb argument.

But why does song and stories of romance speak of scent? The answer is simple. We are human. The chemicals in our bodies produce scents to attract our mate. Barbaric, but true. When our bodies, (Not ourselves) sense chemicals opposite from what we have from another person, we become attracted. Our brains react. This is what ‘Love’ is; a very complex program for making a healthy baby.

Not just with scent, with looks too. That’s why there is ‘love at first sight’. If we don’t see any harmful mutations on the outside, the person is safe for mating. (This excludes HIV, ADS and other sickness like that)

Zim is not a human. He doesn’t have any chemicals, hormones, or whatever to make babies. There for he is ‘unlovable’.

In fact, he is barely considered male on my part, just as Tak is barely considered female.

Now let’s move on Dib.

First off, in the show Dib was too young to have his sexuality determined by anyone: especially fan girls. Has the thought of he being straight ever crossed anyone’s mind? No, it’s always ‘Lets pair up those two guys together!’

But lets predict he is gay or a Bi.

In the show, Dib never said: ‘I like you Zim!’ or anything along those lines. They HAVE worked together but normally ended up fighting. Yes, they have a lot in common. But Zim is Dibs enemy and is fighting for different reasons.

Now let’s pretend Dib lost his purpose in life and his sanity and fell in love with Zim. That is possible. But for the reasons above, it will be a one sided love. And one out of three things can happen.

arrow Dib can collect himself and go on with life.

arrow Dib will go through a state of depression and will hate Zim twice as much and with heartbreak.

arrow Dib will go through a state of depression and have some sense knocked into him by his sister/friend or Zim himself.

So if there was a relationship, it would not last very long and won’t have all the juicy stuff Keri and Pooks loves so much; it would be a very short, boring one-sided love story.

I agree with doma about the reproductive thing and the kissing hurting irkens cuz of the water
I would like to add the Pak- I belive this would block out feelings such as love to keep Irkens 100% devoted to the empire and not love unless there is a specific complication with the Pak yeah.... thats about it

~I'd like to say I like stories that work around the humans=water and the genitalia thing, and those are interesting problems. If they ignore them, I don't mind too much and it's just AU in my mind, but I think it's less fun in general. ^^

I disagree with the love argument, for a couple things. For one, I don't think that romance is necessary for a Zim/anyone relationship, really. And I don't think that the chemical reactions in the brain are all that there is too 'love'; there are a lot of other factors to a relationship, at least for humans.

Whether Zim is capable of feeling love just like humans isn't too likely, realistically, but friendship and attachment and similar feelings count, too.

For the Dib stuff, well, I don't think there's anything wrong with fangirls deciding to write his sexuality however they like. If they make him straight, gay, or anything else, it's just as much fanon. Why not write what you like? Besides, there's Dib/Tak and Dib/other female character around; clearly it's crossed some minds, even if it's not as many.

For their relationship in canon, either character's goals could change over time. Zim might keep trying to conquer Earth forever, or succeed, but there is also the possibility of something happening that causes him to abandon that goal. Not 'love' or something, because that's rather silly, but a real reason. Dib could go crazy or something, yes, or get sick of trying to save the world (though that'd need a lot of work to make me believe), or change for some other reason. Unless they perpetually remained exactly the same, their relationship could change as well. And though it would take a lot of things happening to make a non-enemy relationship happen between them, I think it would be quite possible if the work were put in.

Also, depending on how crazy he went before falling in love with Zim, it could last as long as one made it last. He probably wouldn't be very Dib-like anymore, though, so that might not be a good route.

And finally! I think that a very short, one-sided love story with crazy!Dib and Zim could be quite interesting. Depending.

/long pointless response to thoughts on ZaDR, 'cause it's Saturday and I wanna have diskushonz mrgreen

I have something to say about this. (I am waiting to get accepted by the Tallest by the by).

Zim is supposedly the only known 'defect', an Irken who is different, and their PAK or something went wrong. They are said to stand out, have feelings, and strive to be unique. I believe Jhonen said this himself.

The point of fan pairings, is to pair together people who you yourself would like to see. It doesn't matter if they are kids, the same sex, or if they know one another in the show or not. Now I understand the arguments, and the reasons why it would not be possible, and I know that they are most likely true, but I also have my own theories. I won't go into them, but I have one last thing to say...


Long live Irkens and ZaDr!

Okay, about the Pak arguments. If Zim is indeed a defect, something most not be working in his pak or something is missing. I think defects are like slight "mistakes" in humans. ADD, ADHD*, Left handed, Sanity, ect.

By what I see, a "Normal" Irken is a fighter, egotistic, quick thinker, loves snacks, and catch on 'oddness' quickly.

Zim is not a quick thinker at most times, overly egotisic, and doesn't catch on 'oddness' quickly. I think this is his defect in his Pak.

Nothing as difficult as "Romantic love" can be added by MISTAKE.

But you ARE RIGHT in one way. Fan Pairings are there to pair up characters, even when they make NO sense. In the spirit of fanfiction as they say...

*This I have! =D

If Irken are weak against water on the inside, then how did Zim eat waffles with syrup? ._. I don't know, that just came to mind >w<

Note: I'm Anti-ZADR.. It's just plain icky xp

Or it was because Gir put peanuts and soap in one batch whee