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 Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:50 pm
I find that a lot of fantasy is designed to take place on worlds other than Earth. These worlds are not alien planets, they are usually Earth-like, but it is clear that they are not Earth, past or otherwise. Sometimes also it is implied that the world is Earth in the past, but that Earth was different back then. Do other worlds besides Earth work well in fantasy?
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:25 pm
I'm creating an entire world (to the planetary extent). I am designing every continent, and even a number of phenomenons. A few of them are like that of Earth, and a few of them aren't. However, the planet is still similar to Earth in landscapes, techtonic plates, natural disasters, physics, rocks and minerals, continents and civilisations. I am creating my world so that it could physically exist.
Worlds based on other planets only really work in science-fiction unless it conforms to a place like that of a netheworld/underworld/hell. In such places you're only liable to find races like demons. In gaseous places, you're likely to find creatures that would be considered to be aliens - therefore science-fiction.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:02 pm
When something is going on on another world, it just sci-fi for me, even if it has fantasy background. I am really touchy on this point, because I am a writer and someday one of my reader pionted to me that my sci-fi book is fantasy. I was very 'oh noes'.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:11 pm
Other worlds don't have to be science fiction. Or is that not what you meant? Krynn, is the fantasy world in which the Dragonlance books are set, and that's not sci-fi in any way, and neither is Faerun (the world used in Forgotten Realms).
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:22 pm
No, no, I mean, other planet, not other world. I have read many fantasy books that were placed in other worlds but not that placed on planets.
I mean, Dragonlance is special book (I didn't read The Disc World but I think that these books are in this kind too).
Maybe I am wrong, beacuse I have my own look at fantasy and sci-fi...
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:12 pm
I think it may be difficult for us to imagine a place exactly like the one we live in to be the setting of a fantasy story. Not always, of course--there are plenty of stories that are fantasy that take place in the here and now. But in general, it's easier to believe that magical things happen in other places that, though similar in many ways to Earth, are not the Earth we know. The similarities provide a way to step into that world and believe it exists, while the differences allow things to happen that may not be quite so believable in a more familiar setting.
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:04 am
Kahinat Rackham No, no, I mean, other planet, not other world. I have read many fantasy books that were placed in other worlds but not that placed on planets. I mean, Dragonlance is special book (I didn't read The Disc World but I think that these books are in this kind too). Maybe I am wrong, beacuse I have my own look at fantasy and sci-fi...
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:11 pm
You probably got confused because I have problems with explaining my points in English. razz
I don't consider other worlds as other planets. They are another...realms of dimension. Something that is not really there but you can catch it if you try hard.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:11 pm
I believe she is saying that planets are things in far away lands, but Earth is still buried in the galaxy somewhere. Where Worlds are things were everything is erased and done again only diffrent. There is no Earth, because this new world erases the world with Earth in it.
To say that things living in a gasses nexus would be Alain is not exactly true. Or even to say that aliens are Science Fiction. My Moon Elves come from well, the moon. They were the original Atlantians and thats were they went after the world was corrupted by humans. Still Fantasy, but they are Aliens. I use Earth for the simple reason that ten or twenty thousand years from now, and with the addition of Magic, and Elves/Dwarfs and such. It is a very diffrent place. Call me Sci Fi, or Fantasy as you like, but thats how it works. So, I am one case were I use both Earth, and not quite Earth.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:40 pm
Other dimensions works to. I hadn't thought of that.
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:24 pm
I don't think of my world as a planet substituting Earth at all. I think of it as somewhere completely different in the universe.
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:46 pm
Well the question then is where is earth. If there is no earth then it is a diffrent world so to speak. Opposed to if earth is still there but not near enough to matter in which case you are simply on another planet.
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:28 pm
There are billions of planets in the universe. Who's to say there are no others with the same atmosphere and landscapes as Earth?
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:12 pm
That would make your book one that takes place on another planet. Thus Sci-Fi by the definition of Kahinat Rackham. I still stand strong that the definitive line is blurry and that labellng either of them is a waist of good time. I personaly think that it couldn't matter less what you call the planet, alien, gases, hell, alternate earth. So long as the story is good it dosen't really matter.
Hell, I think doing a gases landscape could be fun, but would be a lot harder, they don't exactly have a lot for us to research easily on the concept.
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:42 am
That doesn't make it sci-fi in the slightest. What the heck is everyone on about? Just because I think of the world I created as another world in the universe, it doesn't make it science fiction for goodness sake.
I'll be leaving this discussion purely because it's getting stupid.
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