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I really hate that I have to even take a stand on this.

... I don't really even get why a bunch of people who would be getting their panties in a wad over not being allowed to talk about ***** (or BDSM, or whatever their topic du jour is) want anything to do with the PCG aside from it being a fairly lax guild. My guess is that most of the people signing it are trolling -- MOST, not all.

I hate the idea that Gaia has to crack down on this s**t in the first place, but really I think it's mostly the hobgoblin of trolling versus there being enough sick ******** on Gaia to warrant further concern.

However, I see no reason why this guild has to support either of them. From personal experience, I have no tolerance for anyone who takes pleasure in the torment of other individuals, and sexual torment especially. It is not in line with the intent of this guild --- that is, To support the rights and autonomy of women and their reproductive capacity -- and I see no reason why sexual non-consensual fetishes have anything to do with this guild.

This said, until further notice:

arrow This guild WILL consider The Freedom of Speech Petition and other similar fetishist material to be trolling, and very not-in-line with our "pro-woman, pro-child, pro-choice" mentality, or the Gaian TOS for that matter.

exclaim Trolling IS a valid reason to be refused admittance to the guild or removed from it. Stricter definitions of what is and isn't trolling will surface as the need arises.

exclaim Support of the petition is NOT a reason in and of itself for disciplinary actions, but since several of the members associated with it have been griefing other PCG members, there may be delays in your admission to the guild or other similar complications if you align yourself with this petition.

If you have a problem with this, bring it up either in this thread or with me in private. Rational heads will prevail, after all.

No.

I was receiving several complaints about trolls and other disruptors that originated from this petition, and have been asked to take out a stance concerning it.

Discussion of illicit acts is one thing, but I have reason to believe that most of the support in this petition is either implicit approval of several of these actions or else trolls supporting it for shock value.

It'd be like trying to be in both the PLG and PCG at the same time; we'd like you to at least have a Damn Good Reason about it.

Several of the more prominent supporters of the petition have been coming into this guild and griefing other members. Since many of these supporters had their friends banned for (probably) good reason, we don't necessarily want the PCG getting mixed up in this.

Can't this be taken up as a harassment issue Veled?

The 'more prominent freedom of speech petition supporters' who come into the PCG with the intent to gain support through emotional tactics?

I support freedom of speech in general; and lets face it, we pretty much
have total freedom of speech in the PCG as long as it is not at the cost of another member - but what the petition is doing imo is pure bullying/harassment.

Are there not any mod's investigating this issue?
I mean god forbid should the PCG have to 'shut down & clean up' as Nikolita did with her guild just because some nitwits have a tizzy over things we say.

For some reason I didn't see this announcement before.

I agree completely with your choice V. It is one thing to support the freedom of speech for people to talk about *****... and another entirely to support the rape of little children. The consensual sexual freedoms and rights of the individual to be autonomous have nothing to do with granting people a right to rape children unable to consent. We are not limiting the autonomy of ***** by telling them they cannot infringe on the rights of children by not letting them be raped.

Thank you for taking a clear stand against this.

Promotion of *****, bestiality, etc. was the primary reason for taking action against this sort. I think Veled was using BDSM as an example of people whining about how they can't parade around their fetishes on Gaia, and it's rather irrelevant in the grand scheme of things (I didn't see any evidence of BDSM groups being targeted and deactivated to begin with). Your request would not have been denied, unless you had been supporting about some odd brand of BDSM where people are abused and exploited against their will.

Me too. I smiled so wide when I saw this. I smiled wider when I saw the new TOS.