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 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:14 pm
This is the thread where the general membership can tell the crew what they think about Tutsumi being banned. Crew are welcome to reply, and voice their opinions as well. Keep it civil, and watch your arguments, if anything gets out of hand, this thread will be locked, and general membership discussion will be closed.
Please PM any questions or requests to be anonymous to Nekojiri.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:58 pm
I think Tutsumi should stay, no offense but that thin line truely wasn't broken, I can say so much worse to someone on a good day that was nothing, and that was also advice. On top of that he wasn't god modding i gave him permission to hear that , but that was so others hadn't and knew to avoid it.... If anything this ban was my fault for breaking his thin like and telling him to hear that on the first, then not defending him after.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Well, seeing as Neko told me one of the main reasons was because Tutsumi filled Neko in in a 'rude' way, I believe that was more the reason, Ally.
Though, all I can say is, give no respect, get no respect. Neko doesn't like Tutsumi, and Tutsumi doesn't like Neko. It's a conflict that has been going on for some time.
I think the two should either work out their problems and come to a mutual agreement, or try to ignore any rudeness between each other.
I say let Tutsumi back. He did nothing wrong. =/
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:40 pm
I don't like Tut. He seems...Godly to me. >_>
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:44 pm
Clow, that's because you lose to Tut, even with your magical purple Sharingan. We all lose to Tut every once and a while but he's not hard to one up every now and then.
Tut should stay, He gives a good sense of order.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:49 pm
Wolven Clow#2 I don't like Tut. He seems...Godly to me. >_> This part isn't about liking or not, it was neko's draw on his thin line and his back talk that really wasn't backtalk. Put it this way, anything he said to Neko then, i could say about 4 times worse on a good day without a problem...... So, read please = P
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:15 pm
I don't believe Clow was referring to Tutsumi's role play character, Kaimen.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:20 pm
Doesn't matter I says what I says. And I Stand my ground, Tut should stay.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:27 pm
Fair enough, you're entitled to that.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:56 pm
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Apparently I really need to stop going on vacation.
I may or may not have opinions later. Just stopped by to see how everyone was doing. *sigh*
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:18 pm
Meh... i's just another silly scene, Nyl. You weren't here, so you don't have to if you honestly don't want to. =/
But Clow, don't screw up godly and literate. Once apon a time when I was a nub, someone who posted this,
"Grabs a glass and chucks it at a cricket"
Seemed godly to me. And... I'm honestly not joking. XD
It's just the way some people speak. ^o^;
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:44 am
I say Tutsumi stays. Truly I don't think hes done much wrong and it seems that this has only been a personal conflict between people within this guild. By conflict I mean the reason this thread is up. Now, I need to make this clear to everyone. I'm not saying this as a former student of his or his "lover", which I am not thank you. Tutsumi is a great role player and has passion for what he is doing. Out of all the people I've talked to, he seems to care for this guild the most. Not saying that people here don't, please don't take it that way. I agree with want many have said here. Tutsumi has order and is literate. He has respect for a lot of the people here and is willing to help. I may not have known him as long as most of you, but still I've known him long enough and have been here long enough to think he should come back. Also about the God-modding. I watched and truly i don't think it was that way... I don't think its right that people expected him to not have the same power he did as a Dojo leader after he left and came back. To me that doesn't make sense. To me this whole thing is rather about the respect people have for each other and the lack of it. Personal conflicts should be set aside in this discussion or it will go no where. Saying he seems this or seems that without giving any evidence or explanation is stupid and will probably start an argument which will again, will lead to nothing. So, to conclude this rant of mine, I think Tutsumi should come back. My reasons are simple and if you don't get them please pm me and i'll explain.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:46 am
Tut has been warned about his attitude on too many occasions to count. When he was demoted, I only acted because of a wave of PMs and IMs asking me to do something about the way he was treating people, so I did. I had every intention of promoting him back to crew, but he broke most of our trust when he deleted half of the guild's threads. Maybe he was entitled to delete -his- posts, but the majority of content in the threads were the work of several others, that he had no right to touch. I acted on several PMs and IMs I've been getting this time, also, explaining the same thing he was demoted for the first time. He was condescending in his OOC, and people didn't like it, people weren't having fun when he was around. I acted on the principle that this guild is supposed to be fun for it's members, not a chore as you waited for Tut to look down on you as you RPd.
What I say may not apply to everyone, but it applies to enough to make a difference.
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:28 am
I've been informed that these threads you speak of were threads created by Tutsumi and the Old Bios Thread. Tutsumi has a right to destroy any threads he has made, as for the Bios thread there is no excuse for that. If there were any more threads then go ahead and tell us them. As for an attitude, everyone has one and each person here could probably point out something they dont like in a single person. As i said Personal problems with a single person should not serve ground to banning a person. If they have made no threats to hurt some one in an out of role play situation, then i see no grounds to use his attitude as a reason to ban him. It's as simple as not being in his threads and if he comes to yours, to just deal with it, or simply ignore him. Plain in simple, Tutsumi should stay.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:33 am
Neko, there is something you must understand here as to why I can not believe that for one second without proof.
One) How many new members have we had recently? 3, 4?
Two) How many newbies are on when Tutsumi are on usually? 2 maybe?
Three) How many has Tut picked on so far? Three; Ally, Neko, Reeve.
Four) How many deserved it? All of them.
Five) Why am I still doing this I'm giving myself a headache? ._.
Anyways... it's the point of, some of the oldbies cannot get over the past events. Tutsumi has done nothing wrong so far. He is not on much, and does not bother in your little 'romance tea drinking fantasies'. He is just there, an ex shojiki or Ho and ex sensei of Hikari.
He only conflicts with people whom deserve what's coming at them. Like with Neko always acting like an a** around Tutsumi, he gets the same treatment back. Ally acting the same and received a little shock or two. And Reeve literally asked to be beat up.
Neko, if you got any messages, it would not be from anyone new, but, excuse my language; whiny little pessimistic oldbies that decide since they don't like this one person, they'll cut them from everything and somehow make the place happier.
Mmmh... yes... conflict and throwing innocent people from a guild is a great way to solve EVERYTHING.
And that is my rant. Thank you. <.<
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