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DM_Melkhar
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:24 pm


HMS Victory
The Battle of Trafalgar
&
Admiral Lord Nelson


HMS Victory - (My YouTube video)

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The Official HMS Victory Website


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HMS Victory stands today as the world's oldest commissioned warship. Still manned by Officers and Ratings of the Royal Navy, the Victory has seen over 220 years of almost continuous naval service.

Best known for her role in the Battle of Trafalgar, the Victory currently has a dual role as the flagship of the Commander-in-Chief Naval Home Command and as a living museum to the Georgian navy.

Launched in 1765 at Chatham Dockyard, the Victory was commissioned in 1778 and continued in active service for the next 34 years. In 1812 the Victory was retired from frontline duty and anchored in Portsmouth Harbour, on the south coast of England. For the next 110 years the Victory remained at her moorings in Portsmouth Harbour fulfilling a combination of practical and ceremonial roles.

In 1922, amid fears for her continued survival, the Victory was moved into Portsmouth's Royal Naval Dockyard and placed in No2 Dry Dock. Work then began on restoring the Victory to her 'fighting' 1805 condition.

Open to the public all year round, HMS Victory allows the visitor to explore the world of the Georgian navy, experiencing both the ship herself and the lives of the men who lived within her 'wooden world'.


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Dimensions

Overall length: 227ft 6in (69.34m)

Length on lower gun deck: 186ft (56.70m)

Extreme breath (widest point): 51ft 10in (15.80m)

Height of mainmast from waterline: 205ft (62.50m)

Burthen (weight fully loaded): 2,162 tons (2,197 tonnes)

Displacement: 3,500 tons (3,556 tonnes)

Depth in hold: 21ft 6in (6.55m)

Draught - forward: 23ft 9in (7.24m)

Draught - aft: 24ft 5in (7.44m)


Battle of Trafalgar

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Wikipedia - Trafalgar

BritishBattles.com - Battle of Trafalgar


NelsonNavy.co.uk
The Battle of Trafalgar was fought on the 21st of October 1805 off Cape Trafalgar on the Spanish coast, between the combined fleets of Spain and France and the Royal Navy. It was the last great sea action of the period and its significance to the outcome of the war in Europe is still debated by historians.

The Chase

The battle itself was the culmination of a long campaign. After the Treaty of Amiens Europe was at peace for 14 months. Many ships in the Royal Navy were paid off and the British returned to their peace time activities. But across the Channel in France Napoleon was planning the next stage of his domination of Europe. He realised that if war broke out again then the Royal Navy would blockade French and continental ports as they had done before and French overseas trade would be crippled. So he planned to invade England and free the seas for French trade. He ordered the building of a fleet of invasion barges and the Grand Army was moved to the Pas de Calais area.
But to get the army across safely the French fleet would need to control the English Channel. To this end he tried to engineer a meeting of his fleets so they could control the sealanes, and protect his invasion barges. He gave orders for the fleets in Toulon, Brest and Ferrol to break out of their blockaded ports.

After an aborted attempt Admiral Villeneuve eventually managed to evade Nelson, blockading him in Toulon, and sailed for the West Indies on March 30th. According to Napoleons plan to meet up with Ganteaume ( who was blockaded in Brest ) , and then to sail back to Europe and with the Rochefort, Ferrol and Brest Squadrons 'procure our superiority before Boulogne for some days'.
When Nelson was told that the French fleet had sailed he assumed they were heading for Egypt, so he sent his ships off to the South East. When he discovered his mistake he set off in pursuit of Villeneuve. Villeneuve picked up Admiral Gravina and the Spanish fleet from Cadiz, and sailed for Martinique.


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The Battle

When Villeneuve decided to sail from Cadiz his plan was for Magon to sail out with his squadron first and capture or drive off the British frigates. On October 19th and a fair wind for leaving Cadiz blowing Villenueve hoisted the order for ships to sail, There was some confusion amongst the fleets captains over whether this order was just for Magon to sail, the frigates or the whole fleet. As the fleet set sail the breeze died away and only seven battle ships and three frigates made it out of the harbour. The wind was too light to let them chase off the British frigates. Villeneuve was forced to order the rest of the fleet to anchor for the night.
The British frigate Sirius (opens in a new window)made the signal 370, 'Enemy's ships are coming out of port', which was repeated along the chain of ships until it reached the main fleet. Nelson then signaled the fleet for 'general chase south-east', his plan was to steer for the Straits of Gibraltar and prevent the Combined Fleet from sailing into the Mediterranean.
On October 20th the rest of the Combined Fleet got under sail and set course for the south-east. Because Nelson had reacted quickly to the signal 370, the British fleet reached the entrance to the Strait before the French and Spanish fleet had left Cadiz. So the British fleet retraced its steps back to the north-west.

The Nelson Touch

As the British Fleet had waited for the Combined Fleet to sail from Cadiz Nelson had asked his captains to come on board the Victory and had explained his plan of attack. The ships were to form two columns, with Nelson in command of one and Collingwood the other, and sail at the centre and rear of the enemy line of battle so as to bring the British ships into close action and cut off the van of the Combined Fleet, which would then take time to get back into the action. Nelson wrote a detailed memorandum explaining his plan on the 9th October, although this was not stricly adheared to in the battle. Nelson reported that his captains were pleased with this innovative plan.


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Service Record

1959 - Keel laid
1765 - Launched
1778 - Commissioned, flagship of Admiral Keppel
1780 - Hull sheathed w/copper to combat shipworm
1781 - Battle of Ushant
1782 - Relief of Gibraltar
1793 - 1st refit, armament increased
1794 - French Revolutionary War
1795 - Refits at Portsmouth and Chatham
1797 - Admiral Sir John, Battle of St. Cape Vincent
1800 to1803 - 4th refit at Chatham
1805 - Lord Nelson, Battle of Trafalgar
1806 - Extensive repairs at Portsmouth
1808 - Re-commissioned, two Baltic campaigns
1817 - Put into reserve
1824 - Flagship for the Port Admiral
1889 - Flagship for Commander-in-Chief (she still is)
1903 - Accidentally rammed while under tow
1922 - Moored to her present dock for restoration


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:21 am


When I dock in Portsmouth on September 9th after being on the tall ship voyage, I will be visting HMS Victory finally. I've wanted to go and see her for a long time now. She's Admiral Nelson's flagship, and he died aboard her in 1805. If it wasn't for him, the British people would probably now be speaking French and we'd be under French rule.

Trafalgar square in London is named after that battle, and there's a huge monument there called Nelson's Column with a statue of Nelson at the very top. It's one of the best monumental tributes I've seen. There's also a similar yet smaller tribute in Great Yarmouth (about 30 miles from where I live) to him. Unfortunately, as a town, Great Yarmouth has deteriorated over the years and its seafront is clogged with gambling amusements. It's not a pretty sea town like it used to be. It was once one of Nelson's favourite places. The man himself was actually from Norfolk (where I am from and where I live! smile ).

Nelson is buried at St. Pauls Cathedral (I must visit it next time I go to London).

DM_Melkhar
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paladinrising

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:03 am


As a student of history, I greatly admire Admiral Nelson, and his nautical prowess, and from what I've read, I can easily see why he is considered one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, naval leader ever.

Often is the time I wish I had more money, so I could go to Europe and the UK, because there is so much history there. Everything in America, for the most part is relatively new. The town I live in was founded in 1796, which makes quite old for the states.

Among the oldest historical sites I've been to have been the old English forts along the Great Lakes, both in the U.S. and Canada, that date back to the 1600 and 1700's.

I know Lord Nelson and Trafalgar weren't that old, historically speaking, but Europe has such a rich history, and at the time, in the early 1800's, the French were a seemingly invincible force in Europe, while everyone else was trying to stop Napoleon.

Sorry for babbling, just thinking aloud how cool it'd be to see the Victory. That must have been quite an experience for you.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:57 am


I actually haven't been yet as stated above. I'll be sailing with the Tall Ships Youth Trust from the 3rd-9th September, of which we'll dock at Portsmouth on the 9th. I won't be seeing HMS Victory until then, but I'm really looking forward to it.

DM_Melkhar
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paladinrising

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:42 pm


Sorry...the days just run together for me... at the time I thought it was mid-September. sweatdrop redface

Plus I'm 4 days away from holiday, so my mind is elsewhere.... razz

Well I hope you do have a great time when you do voyage on the Tall Ships... smile
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:11 am


I will do. I simply can't wait for it and I also can't wait to see Victory! heart

DM_Melkhar
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DM_Melkhar
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:30 am


There have been many great leaders in Britain, but Nelson is amongst those at the very top. If it weren't for him, Britain would be much different today.

I do think Nelson would be appalled to see what the UK has turned into though. If he could see what it's like today, that is. Its countrysides are outstandingly beautiful, and it's history is phenomenal (along with a lot of other places in Europe), but the community as a whole has gone downhill in the last ten years.

Hanging on to great historical places and constructions is all I can think to do. If you ever visit the UK, please do go and see HMS Victory in Portsmouth. She's one of its greatest historical constructions. Do throw some questions my way about this subject.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:17 am


So... are there pictures? Can we see?

*begging eyes of Anime Doom..." smile

JastaElf
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DM_Melkhar
Captain

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:55 am


Photobucket - HMS Victory

There are some pictures of her.
Beautiful isn't she?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:50 am


DM_Melkhar
Photobucket - HMS Victory

There are some pictures of her.
Beautiful isn't she?


That is one handsome ship--the restoration looks stunningly beautiful.

What did it feel like to walk that deck? To be where those brave men worked and lived and fought?

JastaElf
Crew


DM_Melkhar
Captain

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:02 am


JastaElf
DM_Melkhar
Photobucket - HMS Victory

There are some pictures of her.
Beautiful isn't she?


That is one handsome ship--the restoration looks stunningly beautiful.

What did it feel like to walk that deck? To be where those brave men worked and lived and fought?

Absolutely amazing. You can feel something of the men who lived and died on board, and even a sense of Nelson himself. It's just phenomenal. There are only a few places you can't visit on board but they're very small areas that you can just see from where you are.

I don't think the name Victory could be any better. It suits her down to the ...sea (was going to say ground, but hey - that doesn't work).
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:54 am


I have GOT to make it to England next year, and see this ship for myself. I have just GOT to.

I've got some pics of "Old Ironsides", the USS Constitution, somewhere around my hard drive--I'll see if I can find them, and post them to my photobucket.

JastaElf
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Widigo

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:17 am


Oh, please do!

I'll see Britain evintualy, but the chances are it wont be for a while.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:44 am


I know have opportunities to visit Portsmouth on a (hopefully) regular basis to do voluntary work with and on board HMS Victory! I've spoken to a lady at the Historic Dockyard and we've been discussing all the possibilities. Unfortunately I can't make a habit of it until I have some kind of job and I doubt I can do it until next year. However, I'm still going to be able to do it! She even said I can do voluntary work for them at home as and when they need it. Woohoo!

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DM_Melkhar
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DM_Melkhar
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:54 am


I made a slideshow video of my HMS Victory photos, and though I uploaded it to youtube it still hasn't shown up after 48 hours. It's on facebook though.
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