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Not very often will you find a "conspiracy theory" that is well proven, has actual government documents to back it, and also cites its references.

Very few "conspiracy theories" are about AIDS.

It took me about half an hour to read all of this, but do so and you'll find yourself feeling very unsafe.





Read & Discuss.


Edit: If you've been in TGG as long as I have, you know I'm a gullible sucker. But I also know when you prove me wrong. And I'm not afraid to look like a total idiot in saying I believe most of this, and definately don't exclude it as a probable theory.

Admittedly, I didn't finish reading that.

Consipiracy theories like that just don't make sense. You would have to have a government entirely comprised of sociopaths for something like to happen.

Actually, the only thing that didn't add up was that he said their couldn't be a cure for all the strands, but then later he says that after a billion or so people died, they'd magically find a cure. Only inconsistancy I found. But for the second thing about finding a cure, I suppose he meant one or two strands instead of every strand known to man.

MaiKun: It made feel very unsafe. I was actually shaking. I always thought you could get AIDS through kissing and s**t, but everyone always reassured me that I was paranoid, and you could only get it from consuming, like, gallons of saliva. Now, Just from coughing on someone? That may be a little over-exaggerating it on the reporter's behalf, but it still doesn't make me feel any better.

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1. From the website:
"And we also know for a scientific fact that the AIDS virus bears no resemblance whatsoever to any virus ever found in a green monkey, but does bear a total resemblance to cow virus and sheep virus, which have somehow been bonded together. The only possible way these two different species of virus could bond together would be in a laboratory -- something engineered in a laboratory -- and then further engineered to make the jump into a human system."
I've got nothing to repute the dates.

2. From your own source:
"Saliva.
Though HIV is sometimes present in saliva, it apparently exists at very low concentrations. HIV can be in saliva because saliva contains T-cells and macrophages, which rove around the surfaces of the mouth's mucous membrane. The concentration of HIVs in saliva seems to be very low compared to blood and semen.

In theory, saliva can transmit HIV infection but, so far, it doesn't seem to have happened in real life. Kissing is discussed in more detail in the next section.
Tears.
HIV can be obtained from tears, but the concentration seems very small. Also, HIV does not seem to appear consistently in tears. Tears are not likely to transmit HIV infection"

It doesn't deny nor confirm.

3. I've got nothing. Other than refer to 1.
4. googling "rabies manmade" turns up no results relating to what we're talking about. I don't know much about Rabies, so I can't say much. But I did say that the reporter was probably exaggerating when he said you could get AIDS from simply sneezing.
But it isn't entirely unthinkable, as you can get mono from water molecules in the air.
However, if you google "AIDS Manmade", as well as "HIV Manmade", you get a ton of results. Apparently this is a rather popular theory.

Oh, Q... *sigh* How much research have you done on AIDS outside of this? I seriously suggest that you take the time to do some.



Mono and HIV. They are both viral, they both have something to do with T-cells. Both can be carried for exteded periods without symptoms. But they are not the same disease nor do the function in the same way. Really at all. Even in looking at the basics of transmission -- mono, you'll find, is most often tranfered through saliva (hence its nickname: the kissing disease), whereas there are no known instances in which HIV has been transfered through saliva alone.

HIV is also extremely difficult to keep alive outside of the body. Scientists have to use artificially high concentrations just to keep the virus alive long to work with.

Out of curiousity, where are you getting that tidbit about mono and water molecules in the air? It's not that I don't believe you, but I can't find anything to back it up.

Also to pick on the "AIDS did not jump species." What about the other viruses that jump species. Rabies is still rampant, but remember the whole SARS issue? The fears of avian flu?

They actually had the time (and more importantly, the money) to track down all "several thousand" Hep B vaccinated gay men from 1978? It was 1978, for crying out loud. Medical files were still written and typed, people moved, people died, and more importantly, people might have been sexually liberated, but there were still many unwilling to come out as gay. For all their physicians could know, they were straight. So why would it only appear in gay men vaccinated?

Plus the theory discounts the women and heterosexual men getting infected and only looks at gay metropolitan centers. Why not all major cities? Why not all countries? Just looking over at Africa, where people are hardly getting sufficient health care, how did 25.4 million sub-Sahara men, women, and children get it from a vaccine most will never get? Why is it so big there, if the US made it? What would they achieve?

I find it great that the author makes such sweeping notions that the US govenment wishes to "depopulate" so accurately, that it only affects certain States or "brown people and yellow people." Why spread it to places like Europe, Canada, Mexico, and South America? Why isn't it limited in range, but spread out across the globe? How would it jump continents?

Also, they didn't explain how a cow virus and sheep virus could be forced to magically "bond together," or "engineered" to jump to humans. Aerobic transmission in 16,000 heath care workers? Nice round number, that means crap all. Firstly, they handle potentially biohazardous materials, like blood. Second there's bound to be some that are are HIV+ or with full blown AIDS. And again, how many is that out of the total number of health care workers? Of which country?

Holes in condoms? Unless you're still using porous sheep skin or deliberately punching holes in it shouldn't be letting anything through. If it did have microscoping holes, why don't latex balloons (and condoms, latex and polyurethane) leak out air, except through their opening? Air molecules infintesimally smaller than any virus or cell. If there's a way out, they would find it.

Sorry, I'll stop poking holes. There's just so much ridiculous information there, and sure maybe there are medical professionals and journals that back it up, but why aren't they making a louder noise about it? If it's such a dangerous conspiracy that they've stumbled on that can be proven to the world, why aren't they on a newscast or hauling their asses to the UN to have something done? It isn't the Spanish Inquisition, and their names are already published in journals and the internet. If the the creators of AIDS are out there and that powerful, why haven't they hunted these doctors that are fudging their plans?