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 Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:13 pm
I was recently in an arguement about abortion. I'm not saying its bad, I'm not saying its good. I'm saying thats its the womans choice if she wants an abortion or not.
So, what are your views on abortion?
Many people that think of abortion think about adoption as well. Some people say that if a woman doesn't want the child then she sould put it up for adoption. I'm all for adoption but I would never do it myself.
What are your views on adoption?
Thanks for your time. This is a friendly debate, not a rant. I'm just curious on others thoughts. Please, be level headed while replying or stating points. Do not yell and say its bad for no reason. Don't say its good for no reason either. Give your opinions and reasoning behind it. If you have no reasoning then I see no real reason as to why you should post here.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:48 pm
About abortion:
I used to think it was bad because it would put stress on the human population, but I thought it over and learned that the population is too high to be affected by this. Unless everyone woman does, but they don't.
About adoption:
I don't know. It doesn't seem bad. There's nothing wrong with taking something that someone else doesn't want, but you should know what you're getting into.
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:39 pm
Human population is high. We need some sort of population control. Something to bring it down.
I just find so many people calling abortion murder, when its not really. The child hasn't really lived to have a life to murder.
And I just ran into some people that basically said No more abortion, give the child up for adoption. But thats 9 months of the womans live that she had spent with the burden of the child just to give it away when she didn't want it to begin with. Thats torture.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:41 am
Two people make a baby. A man does go through mental stress when a child is born compared to a woman going through physical stress. There was a trial about some young couple before where the girl wanted an abortion while the guy wanted to keep the baby. He said he'd pay for everything and yada yada but the court ruled in the girl's favor. So in my opinion, I think it's the couple's decision whether to get it done or not. If the guy bails out, then definitely the woman's choice.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:00 pm
I think that the woman could feel mental anguish as well. I think that may have been the right choice though. A couple shouldn't have a baby unless they want to. I mean, if the couple had the baby and decided to back out after it was born, there wold be a lot of trouble. If they didn't feel they were ready they could have an abortion and have one when they're ready instead.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:34 pm
seems as if you are Pro-Choice Rikimaroki, which is where I stand on that issue. Whether or not a person has an abortion or not is entirely up to them. Sure it goes against a lot of morale issues (especially with the church) but the church is simply an orginization. I won't get into that argument right now though. I'm not for or really against abortion (since i'm pro-choice) but it is a very interseting topic to debate because of such strong ethical/moral issues behind it. In some cases, such as a rape the pregnancy isn't necessarily planed or wanted. But still does that make it right or wrong for a person to have an abortion?
As for adoption. Being adopted myself I guess I have a slightly bias view on it. I still think like abortion adoption is a person's choice. I'd prefer if people put a child up for adoption as opposed to having the child and abandoning it in a dump or on the streets to simply die, but again it's the individuals choice and responsibility for the child to make that decision. And, adoption isn't always the right thing for children, especially older ones. It can have just as much stress on the child as the parent who is going through deciding to have an abortion. It's hard to make connections with adopted parents, as you look at it in the light of 'they aren't really mine. I don't come from them, they can't understand me'. Even if you're adopted at a young age it can be that way (I was 5 months old when I was adopted). So there are always two sides to the stories and issues. But again though I see adoption as an alternative and perhaps 'better' route it doesn't make it any less right or wrong than abortion. Afterall you're simply saying 'no i don't want this kid so i'm going to give it to someone else' doesn't sound too...nice in certain aspects.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:25 pm
i believe abortion is wrong. i do believe it is taking a life because usually the baby's heart is beating, which means it is alive. things(either animals or humans) do become alive inside the womb(unless its in an egg such as a reptile). the embryo or baby has a heartbeat and takes oxygen and food through the umbilical cord. don't you think that its alive then? and humans will continue to reproduce. i don't think thats a problem. people are born and die frequently, you don't need to get rid of the babies. any one of the babies that have been aborted over the years could have been the person who grew up and discovered the cure for AIDS or something, but their life was cut off before they could grow up because they were unwanted or something. if people don't want children then they shouldn't be sexually active. condoms don't always work and theres always the risk of really nasty STDs which aren't blocked by condoms either. i understand as 4got10Angl pointed out that there are instances where its a rape situation and pregnancies are inevitable. if the girl is not ready for a baby, i heard of an instance where the parents of the girl raised her child until she was ready to take care of her child herself. there are always choices to make and probably most of the decisions that humans make are not good or not the best but a girl/woman never has the end the life of her baby. it may be hard but it is possible. and if they need to there is adoption but that can cause some problems, but its usually better than being dead.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:06 am
I think abortion is wrong, too. Women and men should know what they're getting into before becoming sexually active. And, like Punk said, the baby's heart is beating inside the womb, so when you take it out, it's killing a life.
There is also a form of abortion where the baby is taken out and murdered when it's nearly fully grown. That's horrible and nothing like that should be excused. If couples think they are truly and honestly ready to have a baby, then they can have sex as much as they want, I don't care. But for couples who are most certainly NOT ready for a baby, there are still condoms.
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:15 pm
The babies heart isn't beating as soon as the sperm meets the egg. It takes a while into the pregnancy for that to happen and until then the fetus isn't considered alive. I guess what you guys mean is that it shouldn't be aborted after its heart start beating, and its true in any countries which allow abortions there comes a time during the pregnancy where its too late to have a baby.
Also, you can know what you're getting into before you have sex and put on a condom and take all the precautions but that won't always prevent pregnancy. Sometimes having the baby is dangerous to the mother and could kill her if she gives birth, so an abortion may be neccesary. I know these are rare cases what I just mentioned but you should be a bit open-minded about these things, births aren't just the result of carelessness all the time.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:00 pm
I'd hit that good...
I think abortion is fine. It's the couple's decision. The world really doesn't need more babies right now. Also, it is quite dangerous for some people. Some mothers may not be mentally ready for the pressure that comes with having a child, even if it is given up for adoption right away. Although I do think it's wrong to murder a baby when it's near fully grown.
Also, I don't mean to draw arguments from this, but people are killed senselessly every day. That's wrong too, but sometimes it's necessary. Rarely, but sometimes.
A cow's heart is beating too. So is a chicken's. Why are humans so special? Why do we deserve to live more than anything else? We're the ones destroying Earth, not some innocent cow in the pasture, its life existing only as food for humans.
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I'd hit that real good...
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