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RawMaterial

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:53 am


Nature=what one is born with and has gotten through genes and such

versus

Nurture=what one learns and develops and gets throughout their life.

So what I'm asking is what sort of things are you born with (physically, personality-wise, &c) and what of those things do you recieve in life?

For example:
If one reacts to a trajedy (SP!) in a certain way, say, closing themself off to the world, was this something in their brain structure that made them do this, or a normal human reaction? Becuase I've seen it where instead of closing themself off, they become ever-social, and so on, you know?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:37 pm


RawMaterial
Nature=what one is born with and has gotten through genes and such

versus

Nurture=what one learns and develops and gets throughout their life.

So what I'm asking is what sort of things are you born with (physically, personality-wise, &c) and what of those things do you recieve in life?

For example:
If one reacts to a trajedy (SP!) in a certain way, say, closing themself off to the world, was this something in their brain structure that made them do this, or a normal human reaction? Becuase I've seen it where instead of closing themself off, they become ever-social, and so on, you know?


I have always believed - and probably will not change my mind on this subject - that it is a combination of both, as WELL as dependent on the situation and the actors in it themselves.

Two things I suppose that might be of use would be;

Born with - a need to be extravert, or a lack of such a need (making you introvert)

Taught - Acceptable behaviour.

Someone who is a natural introvert will have to make an increased effort to be extravert, and since they aren't naturally extravert, I doubt the rewards (social interaction) will stimulate them to keep being extraverted.

I don't think this is something that can be taught. I do think you can be taught how to efficiently work with conversation, though.

Acceptable behaviour is something that is taught. If you fail to admonish your child properly on the 'don't fart in public' rule, it won't mind doing so gregariously, after all.

Not sure how useful these answers are to you, but I suppose they're a start if nothing else..

Maze


ochimaru

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:33 pm


Nature - Physical characteristics... hair, skin, eye color. Physical health problems. Chemical imbalances within the brain.

Nurture - Morals, respect and philosophy on life. Parents instill their religion, social opinions and attitudes upon their children.

Once the child leaves the nest, and often even before that, they begin to stray from their parents nurturing. Sometime in the early teens, a child goes from being mommy or daddy's little child to being the brat that thinks for themselves. Often, these fledgling's have made bad interpretations of facts or think they know everything based on their limited experiences, but at that point a parent must switch from programming their child to guiding their child - otherwise, rebellion ensues. And after the child begins to become a young adult, they search out a partner whom they can nurture and be nurtured by.

So, I think physical characteristics are based on nature and social characteristics are based on nurture.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:14 pm


The biggest problem is figuring out what is nature, and what is nurture. People can and do exhibit traits of relatives that they have never met. But at the same time, they can alter their physical traits based on outside influences. We don't really know what is nature, and what is nurture. It really is almost impossible to tell, especially with certain traits.

terranproby42


Socrates in Disguise
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:06 am


Nature- Reason and the lack there of, instinct, and the will to survive.

Nurture- outlook, preferences, ability to handle certain situations.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:06 am


Hmmm...this one's a toughie.

Nature - Instinct (definitely, PM me if you want to have a lengthy discussion about instincts), artistic tendencies (although that could be read as a facet of introversion)

Nurture - "Correct" conduct in society

Cougar Draven


Starlock

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:24 pm


I'd have to agree with what Maze puts here. All the evidence points in both directions. For everything there is a genetic component and an envirionmental component. The third component is the cognitive component. All three of these interact with one another and influence one another.

I don't think there is ANYTHING that isn't influenced both by genetics and by envirionment. Physical characteristics are both genetics and envirionment, so is intelligence, personality (and consequently personality plays a role in the development of morals and such), and even habits.

When you look at some other species, though, like trees, it becomes very evident how genetically determined we are by comparisson. The plant kingdom survies as well as it does because it physically adjusts to the environment far more than any mammal ever could hope to. The human genome has some plasticity, but not nearly as much as some people probably think.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:04 am


Socrates in Disguise
Nature- Reason and the lack there of, instinct, and the will to survive.

Nurture- outlook, preferences, ability to handle certain situations.


Though made more complex by new research showing genetic predispositions toward certain outlooks and preferences.

Invictus_88

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