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 Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:48 pm
Just a reminder to members. Here are the rules and penalties (copied straight off the homepage lol). If you disobey the rules, BEWARE!! twisted
Rules
1. Please type, spell, and use colors and sizes as legible as possible. I understand that some of us just can't spell very well, but please try your hardest and use IM language as mildly as possible.
2. Be courteous to others. If you disagree with someone on something, please be constructive and polite.
3. Swearing is only to a minimum.
4. Keep the guild active.
5. Love nature and/or be willing to learn about it.
6. Follow Gaia's guild rules and TOS.
7. Follow these rules.
Penalties
1. You will be PMed and asked to stop any violation of the rules.
2. If you continue to disobey the rules, a second PM will act as a reminder.
3. Any further violation will get you booted off this guild. Yes, it's strict, but it really would be nice to have a...well, nice guild.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:26 pm
RULES UPDATED! Rules 1. Please type, spell, and use colors and sizes as legible as possible. I understand that some of us just can't spell very well, but please try your hardest and use IM language as mildly as possible. 2. Be courteous to others. If you disagree with someone on something, please be constructive and polite. 3. Swearing is only to a minimum. 4. Keep the guild active. 5. Love nature and/or be willing to learn about it. 6. Follow Gaia's guild rules and TOS. 7. Follow these rules. 8. Any topic that has not been replied to in one month since the last post will be locked. The topic will be deleted (unless it's an important suggestion and such) when the locked topic has not been requested by someone to be unlocked after 20 days after it was locked.Penalties 1. You will be PMed and asked to stop any violation of the rules. 2. If you continue to disobey the rules, a second PM will act as a reminder. 3. Any further violation will get you booted off this guild. Yes, it's strict, but it really would be nice to have a...well, nice guild.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:08 am
Devin_Kruljac_Truessence 8. Any topic that has not been replied to in one month since the last post will be locked. The topic will be deleted (unless it's an important suggestion and such) when the locked topic has not been requested by someone to be unlocked after 20 days after it was locked. I read about these rules back when I first joined, but just remembered today that I'd had questions about this one, and scrolled down to see all the locked threads at the bottom of the guild. What is the purpose of this rule? To me, it seems detrimental to a discussion guild- the issues that we're covering here usually don't go away if nobody posts in a thread for 30 days, unless it was a call to a specific gathering or time-sensitive petition, and they remain relevant to this guild's purpose until those issues are no longer issues for the planet. Even if we weren't receiving new members, each of whom has their own opinion and experience to share in a given thread, it is still possible that I might go for several months before encountering something which brings that thread to mind and makes me want to share something. In that case, having it locked (or worse, deleted) will likely make it too much of a hassle for me to go to the trouble of having it unlocked just to make a post. A new member almost certainly will not feel as though they have the authority to request a thread being unlocked- and they're the folks from whom we need to hear the most. The policy of locking threads which have neither reached a definitive goal nor become irrelevant to the guild's purpose discourages discussion; it reduces the guild's potential as an informative meeting place for environmentally conscious folks to share their thoughts and actions. I think I understand what may have gone into creating this policy- you don't want to have old threads popping back up when there are new subjects to be discussed? But to me, those old threads are just as important as the new ones. Continuing our long term activities, after all, counts for a lot in this kind of work. We need to be able to pick up on old discussions and projects even as we're exploring new ones. Secondly, if old threads pop up then that just means that the members have more to contribute on that line of thought- which means that it should pop up and we're not done with it yet. Those threads in which the members currently don't have anything to discuss will remain quietly out of the way, whether or not they're locked. But in any guild- and an activist guild, especially- it is important to make it easier for members to post rather than more difficult. If we end up having many archive pages full of (currently) inactive threads, so much the better- it means we're a successful and thriving guild whose members have a variety of discussions and subjects at their discretion. It would also help to keep discussion of a certain topic localized, and everyone's input recorded, rather than to risk duplicate threads because a person can no longer see the old (deleted) thread- or doesn't want to go to the trouble of having it unlocked. So I guess you can consider this an official request to unlock all of those locked threads, and perhaps review the policy.^_~
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:59 pm
Weben--I believe the intended purpose of this rule was just so that we wouldn't have a bunch of useless threads cluttering our space. At least that's how I see it. But we don't delete the threads with some good ideas in it and lock and delete only those that have no real meaning.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:44 pm
Exactly what Riku said. We lock them because no one has posted anything for about a month or so. If anyone wants us to unlock a certain topic, they are free to ask one of the crew members or captain to do so and we will. We won't get rid of the good topics that give advice and are of great importance, okay?
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:42 pm
Devin_Kruljac_Truessence Exactly what Riku said. We lock them because no one has posted anything for about a month or so. If anyone wants us to unlock a certain topic, they are free to ask one of the crew members or captain to do so and we will. We won't get rid of the good topics that give advice and are of great importance, okay? I got discouraged by the locked-ness when I visited this guild for the first time. I had wanted to give some useful replies to a question/discusison thread but it was locked...and I didn't feel like I had the right to ask for it to be unlocked. Besides, what about topics that may be old to the regular guild members but useful and fresh to a new member? I think that deleting old posts serves no good purpose. really, the threads that are most active can be brought to the top at any time, and there isn't a limit on how many pages of topics a guild can have, no practical one I've ever known of anyway. I second the opinion that this is a really bad policy as it forecloses on potentially useful threads for new and/or longtime inactive members. neutral I'm sad there's no bringing back the threads that are already gone; I'll never know what I missed that I may have really enjoyed.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:04 pm
seiryuuchan Devin_Kruljac_Truessence Exactly what Riku said. We lock them because no one has posted anything for about a month or so. If anyone wants us to unlock a certain topic, they are free to ask one of the crew members or captain to do so and we will. We won't get rid of the good topics that give advice and are of great importance, okay? I got discouraged by the locked-ness when I visited this guild for the first time. I had wanted to give some useful replies to a question/discusison thread but it was locked...and I didn't feel like I had the right to ask for it to be unlocked. Besides, what about topics that may be old to the regular guild members but useful and fresh to a new member? I think that deleting old posts serves no good purpose. really, the threads that are most active can be brought to the top at any time, and there isn't a limit on how many pages of topics a guild can have, no practical one I've ever known of anyway. I second the opinion that this is a really bad policy as it forecloses on potentially useful threads for new and/or longtime inactive members. neutral I'm sad there's no bringing back the threads that are already gone; I'll never know what I missed that I may have really enjoyed. Example Post 1 - "The rain forest is beautiful." Post 2 - "Yeah." Post 3 - "Too bad it's getting cut down." Post 4 - "I know." And that ends up being the last post in that topic, and a month later, there still isn't anything new.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:43 pm
... perhaps I'm missing it, but I've looked through a few times and can't seem to find my old post on the importance of planting hardwood and deciduous trees for reforrestation projects rather than the usual evergreens? I suspect it's been deleted due to inactivity- I'd hoped to bring it up for folks to see for Earth Day ideas this year, but I don't have time to rewrite it. And even if I rewrote it, we still will have lost the responses of other guild members who posted to it.
This was the scenario I feared when I originally responded to the "deletion of old threads" rule... problems don't go away just because we haven't talked about them in a while, and this guild can't become a repository of environmentalist theories, discussions, and activities if we delete threads whenever they are no longer the center of attention. Since there is no limit to the number of threads a guild can possess, I really see no point to this tactic- it is self-defeating and frustrating for members, and gains us only a smaller forum with fewer ideas floating around. neutral
If we must clear threads from the main forum, perhaps we could form an archive sub-forum so that they will not be lost forever?
I am sorry if I come across as being overly critical of this point. sad I know that you guys care a great deal about this guild and put a lot of effort into it... but for me this is extremely frustrating. I tend to be very short on time as it is, and yet I always put a great deal of consideration into my posts... only to have them deleted when the conversation lulls? I do not see the point of spending the effort if they're just going to disappear. sad
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:50 pm
WebenBanu ... perhaps I'm missing it, but I've looked through a few times and can't seem to find my old post on the importance of planting hardwood and deciduous trees for reforrestation projects rather than the usual evergreens? I suspect it's been deleted due to inactivity- I'd hoped to bring it up for folks to see for Earth Day ideas this year, but I don't have time to rewrite it. And even if I rewrote it, we still will have lost the responses of other guild members who posted to it. This was the scenario I feared when I originally responded to the "deletion of old threads" rule... problems don't go away just because we haven't talked about them in a while, and this guild can't become a repository of environmentalist theories, discussions, and activities if we delete threads whenever they are no longer the center of attention. Since there is no limit to the number of threads a guild can possess, I really see no point to this tactic- it is self-defeating and frustrating for members, and gains us only a smaller forum with fewer ideas floating around. neutral If we must clear threads from the main forum, perhaps we could form an archive sub-forum so that they will not be lost forever? I am sorry if I come across as being overly critical of this point. sad I know that you guys care a great deal about this guild and put a lot of effort into it... but for me this is extremely frustrating. I tend to be very short on time as it is, and yet I always put a great deal of consideration into my posts... only to have them deleted when the conversation lulls? I do not see the point of spending the effort if they're just going to disappear. sad
Anytime I think I should delete a thread, I always look over it to see if there is any important information or replies that would me missed. I will be more careful about this in the future. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:43 pm
What do you think of the idea for an archive subforum? We could call it the Recycling Bin... it would give us the opportunity to reduce the amount of inactive threads in the main forum, and yet we'd still be able to reuse and recycle those old threads when a suitable situation came up. heart
You could move threads which are no longer active into this subforum- folks could still comment on them if they want to, and if the issue comes back up so that someone wants to revive the thread, they could request that it be recycled into the main forum for a while. Then when there's no further activity, it could be moved back into the Bin! Gaian conservation in action. wink
I'd be willing to sponsor the project- subforums cost about 2500g, right? Say the word and I'll send a donation!
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:53 pm
Okayz. I am working on moving all the topics right now. smile
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:48 pm
Yay!!! Thanks! heart
And now I am off to my sisters'... have a great weekend, everyone!
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