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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:02 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:21 pm
I am NOT a full supporter of "Natural" training. I do however support some parts of it. I really like the "join up" technique. I have used it on a number of horses I have ridden for other people. Admittedly, I have yet to use it on my own horse...
Anyways, Monty Roberts IS NOT A FAKE and whatever else people say about him. If anyone has read any of his books, they are about respecting your horse and learning their language instead of attempting to force the horse to learn our language. I support Monty Roberts and his methods.
That's about all I have to say on the matter...
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:16 am
I don't think Montry Roberts is a total fake... but I don't support him either. If you've read his book "From my hands to yours" (I own a copy) and the things he says on single line lunging, how to deal with a bucking horse (The buck stopper), how he thinks things HAVE to be done using the Dually halter etc.
Its things like that I won't support (If you've read his book From my hands to yours) but there are other things I do agree with.
No offence to the guy but I have my own opinions on him... and his stuff isn't exactly affordable. Horse people on a tighter budget (Like myself) don't have the money to go out and buy these things, but a Ray Hunt DVD... little saving and I have it within maybe a month.
As for the jiggline the line, its effective and was taught to me by my coach - as he taught it to my horse - I never said its something you can just do but its something proven to be useful when taught properly.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:49 pm
If I Were You I'd Check out The Horse Trainer Guild.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:58 pm
I personally love Clinton Anderson's methods. I went to one of his clinics in April and I was impressed. xd It didn't follow schedule very closely, he went over the estimated time a lot, but he stressed the point "It takes as long as it takes." He never said his way was the best and he didn't force feed his products. All he said about him was that he prefers them and it makes his methods work a little faster, but he also said that you could acheive the same results with regular equipment.
www.downunderhorsemanship.com
It's definatly worth checking out.
He explains things simply, but not so simply that it skips anything important. If you're interested in him the tickets to the clinics are cheap, $25 per person. If you get them early it's buy one get one free, and people 16 and younger get in free.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:00 am
I think everyone on here whos putting down the natural training should stop.
Training if different for every horse, and some times natural training works, don't put it down until you have tried it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:51 pm
I used to be the biggest Parelli skeptic, and I'm not exactly what you would call a die-hard fan now. I think that a lot of people don't understand the techniques that they're using and I think that the whole program is waay over commercialized, which bothers me on some level, but at the same time, damn, you could write a marketing thesis on their program. The biggest thing that Parelli did was take the same thing that NH trainers have been saying for years (Tom Dorrance, Ray Hunt, etc.) and turn it into an easy to follow and easy to understand system. If you really get into his program, you do find more of the psychology stuff and it becomes much more informative. Of course, most people just get the level one pack and follow the little booklets. Which is why a lot of people have problems. I wish they would put more of the psychology part into the packets, since that's what people NEED to know. I watched videos and read reviews etc. years ago and was not in the least impressed, but a friend of mine who is REALLY into it convinced me to go to a tour stop with her this spring and got me in free for both days since she's in the "Savvy Club", and I will say, I learned quite a bit. It's not stuff that no one has ever thought of before, but it was worded in different ways and some things finally started making sense.
So I'm not saying to go out and buy the Parelli program. I still think it's a waste of money. And you can get the same equipment for half the price off of Horsefriendly.com. (I took a natural horsemanship class last year, looked around for a long time to find me some good Parelli knock-offs biggrin ). All I'm saying is that he's not a complete crook, and don't debase everything that comes along from him. Some of the techniques are really good. Others... not so much. But that's me. I'll take what I can get from any system and then combine it what I liked from another system and create my own rules. biggrin
If you're really looking into natural horsemanship, read up on Tom Dorrance. Almost every modern NH practitioner worth their spit will credit him as their biggest influence.
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