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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:52 pm
I dunno if it belongs here, but as the moderator of a guild of students learning about Japanese culture, I feel this must be said.
Japan is a country with a lot of pride, and holds itself very highly. They're either at the top, or they're nothing at all. If you're wondering why the majority of them look white, ask the person(Osamu Tezuka, if you're wondering) who began the anime movement(or rather, the anime that blew the gates open for it, Astro Boy), who based his original designs on WALT DISNEY'S work. They pretty much took all he did, and added their own twist to it. And so far, people have been eating it up. Hell, if it's your race being put in the limelight, wouldn't you want your race to be the best represented, anyways?
When white people make something, EVERY OTHER RACE BUT THEIR OWN is treated like a disposable character because, to the writer, and producers of the piece, they most likely are. Same thing for any other writer looking to make their race look good. It would take a truly wise, stubborn and unbiased writer, and production for all races to not fall into their stereotypes, as if it were a glove. Japan is racist towards others. So is China. So is America. So is every other race in the world. It's natural for them to defend their own, and to break that mindset, means to see people in a totally different light. Until then, you'll have the Caucasian writers casting Asians in their kung fu practicing stereotypes, and Japanese writers creating black, big lipped nitwits, and ignorant white people.
Racism can only change, when the people who practice it change.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:31 pm
Oh wow I agree with you 99% but the one percent is that Japanease people draw mostly Caucasian people and they do look really pretty. We rarely see any black people in anime.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:30 pm
I would tend to agree with you, except for the part about America being racist toward others. America is a lot more racist within itself than it is to other nations, simply because America doesn't have a single "race" to speak of. I would say there is a sense in Americans that they are *culturally* superior to to others. Which may be why America has a bad habit of trying to export and "convert" others to its cultural ideal, whereas Japan or China don't do anything of the sort; it's impossible to "export" a race like you can an idea.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:22 pm
omfgNAMARI I would tend to agree with you, except for the part about America being racist toward others. America is a lot more racist within itself than it is to other nations, simply because America doesn't have a single "race" to speak of. I would say there is a sense in Americans that they are *culturally* superior to to others. Which may be why America has a bad habit of trying to export and "convert" others to its cultural ideal, whereas Japan or China don't do anything of the sort; it's impossible to "export" a race like you can an idea. That's what I was attempting to touch on. Each country has it's hot blooded patriots, and they will make damn sure other countries know how much better their country is. Unfortunately, people seem to think this is the majority population of America, symbolized by such comedians as Larry The Cable Guy, and Carlos Mencia*cough, material thieves, cough*. Racism, for me, in another sense, is someone saying their country is crap, and should be more like their homeland. As I've said before, I hold the general belief that nationalists have the IQ of a French Fry, and I'll continue to hold firm to that, until they prove themselves otherwise.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:22 pm
The entire Japan thing sort of went overboard the minute anime became popular. I'm the sort of person who likes the underground, and once it becomes mainstream, gets freaked out and backs away. If I was Japanese...oh goodness. But the thing is, being worshiped like they are, you can't help but wonder how some of the easily influenced think highly of their culture.
And really, we do have racism too. I tell people that I'm Asian, and when I was younger, 99.9% of the time, the response would be the "Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees" rhyme. The .1% would be like "Can you speak Korean?!" God, that makes me sick. Whenever they do that nowadays, I just sort of look at them down my nose and walk away.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:42 pm
What area did you grow up in che_hyun? I've never heard that derogatory slang before about Asians. eek I must be living under a very well protected rock if that was the response you got 99% of the time. It wasn't until recently that I heard the term "Twinky" (?) and what it meant. Some things are just beyond silly. It's disheartening to see that so many people aren't nearly as open minded as I thought. confused
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:09 pm
Kita Cloud What area did you grow up in che_hyun? I've never heard that derogatory slang before about Asians. eek I must be living under a very well protected rock if that was the response you got 99% of the time. It wasn't until recently that I heard the term "Twinky" (?) and what it meant. Some things are just beyond silly. It's disheartening to see that so many people aren't nearly as open minded as I thought. confused That's why we're here. To open the heart, and expand the mind.
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:54 pm
Kita Cloud What area did you grow up in che_hyun? I've never heard that derogatory slang before about Asians. eek I must be living under a very well protected rock if that was the response you got 99% of the time. It wasn't until recently that I heard the term "Twinky" (?) and what it meant. Some things are just beyond silly. It's disheartening to see that so many people aren't nearly as open minded as I thought. confused Really? I heard that rhyme all the time (Before I even got interested in Japan, and by the way, I don't have a drop of oriental blood). Although, a friend of mine is half-Japanese, and apparently she was more loved than hated. She recalled to me that when she was little, this older kid was bullying her. A bunch of much older kids scared him away and helped her up, telling her how cute she was. Then there's two Vietnese brothers who go to our school, and they're pretty well appraised (especially the younger brother, considering he's crazy at sports and his artwork makes me cry because he's so much better than me) @ Koiyuki- Awareness is the only way to cure bad morals. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:31 pm
che_hyun The entire Japan thing sort of went overboard the minute anime became popular. I'm the sort of person who likes the underground, and once it becomes mainstream, gets freaked out and backs away. If I was Japanese...oh goodness. But the thing is, being worshiped like they are, you can't help but wonder how some of the easily influenced think highly of their culture. And really, we do have racism too. I tell people that I'm Asian, and when I was younger, 99.9% of the time, the response would be the "Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees" rhyme. The .1% would be like "Can you speak Korean?!" God, that makes me sick. Whenever they do that nowadays, I just sort of look at them down my nose and walk away. I get asked if I can speak Polish all the time and I get the Polock jokes told to me everyday, that sucks too, everyone has to deal with stuff like that, I have to, we all do or have at some point.
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:32 pm
s.o.l.e.m.n.-p.r.i.d.e. Kita Cloud What area did you grow up in che_hyun? I've never heard that derogatory slang before about Asians. eek I must be living under a very well protected rock if that was the response you got 99% of the time. It wasn't until recently that I heard the term "Twinky" (?) and what it meant. Some things are just beyond silly. It's disheartening to see that so many people aren't nearly as open minded as I thought. confused Really? I heard that rhyme all the time (Before I even got interested in Japan, and by the way, I don't have a drop of oriental blood). Although, a friend of mine is half-Japanese, and apparently she was more loved than hated. She recalled to me that when she was little, this older kid was bullying her. A bunch of much older kids scared him away and helped her up, telling her how cute she was. Then there's two Vietnese brothers who go to our school, and they're pretty well appraised (especially the younger brother, considering he's crazy at sports and his artwork makes me cry because he's so much better than me) @ Koiyuki- Awareness is the only way to cure bad morals. 3nodding Same here, all the Asians were worshiped, so I totally agree.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:21 am
I think a big factor to racism is location. I don't think I've come across many issues with it here in Sydney [probably because the suburb that I live has a mainly Asian population, as opposed to the normal majority Caucasian], but I've heard all sorts of stories about it from people that'd gone to the country-side.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:29 am
I just hate racism. I don't notice it either here in Melbourne.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:52 am
Hate is a very strong word LB. It is, afterall, one of the roots of racism. I would rather say that racism is frustrating, because there's so much of it. Peace and harmony is a much better feeling. Having pride and accepting people for who they are rather than judging them by their race/ethnicity/background/etc. is the way to go.
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