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bakuretsuai

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:38 pm


I've submitted a few pieces to fanfiction.net, myself. And I can see where everyone is coming from. There are some high quality stories there. And there are a plethora that make my brain hurt trying to get past errors that make up over eighty percent of the story. If these writers are young, that's one thing. But there are some that post age in their profiles. I'm not ruling out lying, but to be eighteen and writing in a fashion that is incomprehensible and having the gall to post, while clearly not editing or so much as capitalizing, should be called out. A few mistakes is only human. I understand that completely. I have not always been twenty-two and an avid reader. It wouldn't hurt to be familiar with the rules of thumb in grammar and punctuation and put them to good use.
In regard to script writing... Personally, I don't like it unless I'm reading a screenplay. That is my opinion. I happen to do compilations with a very talented writer, whose first form of writing was purely in script form. It was easier for her to develop her story lines as she went. It practically cut out the need for brainstorming and going in and making split-second changes that she could see was just a very easy way to see how different dialogs fit in with what she already had to work with. Most people just think differently and need to see their ideas in different ways to get the result they want. She did use proper grammar, punctuation, and so on. It was a pleasure reading her work and converting it to verse. The one disadvantage I see to scripting is that, if one is not careful, it is easy to miss out on key words and phrases that define emotion, internal struggle, things that verse grants a certain 'ease of flow', if that makes any sense.
But, in all honesty, if you can't write and still have a story to tell. Learn, it won't kill you! And now you even have spell check in your e-mail. There is really not much in the way of excuses.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:42 pm


Benjamin Bradt
I have also written a few stories on Fanfiction.net. I don't believe that it's fair to hammer it about the grammatical or spelling errors, as many of the people on the website are young and inexperienced. Sometimes, I cannot help but wonder if many of this guild's members are too zealous in their persecution against people with 'less than favorable' grammatical ability.

Perhaps, rather than set fire to people, we should offer assistance to them and help them improve.


I agree 100% with you! There have been quite a few stories that I have thought had good ideas but horriable spelling and grammar and have offered to be a "beta reader" in essence a human spell checker.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:06 pm


Shoko-Howlette
Benjamin Bradt
I have also written a few stories on Fanfiction.net. I don't believe that it's fair to hammer it about the grammatical or spelling errors, as many of the people on the website are young and inexperienced. Sometimes, I cannot help but wonder if many of this guild's members are too zealous in their persecution against people with 'less than favorable' grammatical ability.

Perhaps, rather than set fire to people, we should offer assistance to them and help them improve.


I agree 100% with you! There have been quite a few stories that I have thought had good ideas but horriable spelling and grammar and have offered to be a "beta reader" in essence a human spell checker.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:40 pm


Benjamin Bradt
I have also written a few stories on Fanfiction.net. I don't believe that it's fair to hammer it about the grammatical or spelling errors, as many of the people on the website are young and inexperienced. Sometimes, I cannot help but wonder if many of this guild's members are too zealous in their persecution against people with 'less than favorable' grammatical ability.

Perhaps, rather than set fire to people, we should offer assistance to them and help them improve.


I agree. This is judging a site based on a percentage of users who either do not know certain grammar rules or those who simply ignore them. There are many quality stories being posted there everyday. The spell checker on Microsoft Word has improved grammar and spelling quite a bit on there. I am usually able to weed out the bad quality stories simply from there description. Give the site a chance. For original stories there is also FictionPress.com. FictionPress is the site that I find myself going to more often. They have more literate authors and original story ideas.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:55 pm


I've written quite a few stories, and to my eternal shame, there are a few that have spelling errors that spellcheck didn't pick up and I didn't spot until I had put it on the site. xp
I hope that never happens to anyone else here.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:29 pm


Although I don't think that people should be necessarily killed over grammar, I find that it is annoying to read their incomprehensible prattle day in and day out. For instance, if one is creating an RP here on Gaia or otherwise, and you make it clear that grammar is an important element, sometimes people don't bother to heed you. I can only conclude that these people either

a.) Have absolutely NO idea what proper punctuation and/or grammar is, or
b.) Don't give a s**t, even if they do.

The second one is my issue. I don't have too big of a problem with people who are young and inexperienced, but if you make no effort to touch up your work that other people will be reading out of courtesy, you don't deserve that little submit button near the bottom (This, of course, is referring to those who at least have a Middle School education). It's an eyesore, honestly. I've been called a grammar-Nazi countless times; and why not? Back in Shakespeare's times, almost everyone articulated their speech with quicker and wittier finesse than the majority of people do in our times! Does this mean that, slowly but surely, we're going to regress into the Dark Ages due to laziness? Or is it naivete that will shatter our civilization? Then again, we've advanced so much in the past decade... whoops! Those are adults doing the work. Adults we call old-fashioned and archaic are really behind the scenes. This can only mean that, when we're all in our middle-aged lives, the shoulders our health will rest on will be those of some kid working at Burger King working his way through college.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:39 pm


I have written two stories on FanFiction. Also, I have written one on FictionPress.

I just don't read anything that has extremely terrible grammar or plot. I tend to read mostly from a few people, ones that are good at both.

I have also been trying to become a Beta, to help the other writers with grammar and such.

I also agree with the three of you, help them learn, don't persecute.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:20 am


Personally, I like the site. I'm an author on it. Luckily, you can usually tell from lucking at story descriptions whether the story is going to be well-written, so the bad ones are fairly easy to avoid. I think as the authors on there gain experience, they get better. But there's always going to be terrible writers on fanfiction, that's just the way of the world. I don't claim to be perfect at spelling and grammar, but I try. If people aren't willing to learn, you can't teach them.

Spellcheckers can be annoying. They don't recognise a lot of colloquial words, and, in Firefox, at least, are americanised. I even downloaded the UK English dictionary for my browser, but it still tried to make me type 'color', and spell things with 'z's. sad

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greengal48

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:35 pm


I have posted in FF.net and even here in the arena. I have to admit to being one of those people with bad grammer. I need a beta to check my work. I understand the importance of learning how to spell and even keep a dictionary by me when I write. However, stuff slips by. Now it's becoming hard for me to find folks to proof my stuff. I guess my fustration isn't so much with folks' bad grammer. It's finding people to proof read them. sweatdrop As for the plot issue, no one will give me a review explaining what may be wrong or even right with it. Ratings are great, but constructive feedback works wonders.

Anywho, that's my two cents. whee
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