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 Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:03 pm
Y'know I'm getting pretty sick off this "well our side has more freedoms."
since when does having more choices mean someone's side is better? Rules are suddenly a bad thing? Oh I can see this country now on the brinks of anarchy... just a little more freedom! rolleyes
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:22 am
Lady__Miko Y'know I'm getting pretty sick off this "well our side has more freedoms." since when does having more choices mean someone's side is better? Rules are suddenly a bad thing? Oh I can see this country now on the brinks of anarchy... just a little more freedom! rolleyes I also can't think of any other freedom that allows an individual to kill another one without the second party's consent. In any other circumstance, having that be a legal freedom would be considered a bad thing.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:30 pm
i suppose if you discount taking every last ounce of freedom away from the child in question, yes, they have more freedoms.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:33 am
MiNdCaNdY i suppose if you discount taking every last ounce of freedom away from the child in question, yes, they have more freedoms. Father too. They have no reproductive rights as it stands. Only reproductive responsibilities. Edit: And anyone who wants to say I'm defending the rapist's rights, get bent. Most fathers aren't rapists, and anyone who thinks that "Rape is all too thinkable for quite the normal sort of man," go tell half the males you know that they're rapists. That ought to teach them. Shame on them for being conceived with the Y chromosome.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:26 am
lymelady MiNdCaNdY i suppose if you discount taking every last ounce of freedom away from the child in question, yes, they have more freedoms. Father too. They have no reproductive rights as it stands. Only reproductive responsibilities. Edit: And anyone who wants to say I'm defending the rapist's rights, get bent. Most fathers aren't rapists, and anyone who thinks that "Rape is all too thinkable for quite the normal sort of man," go tell half the males you know that they're rapists. That ought to teach them. Shame on them for being conceived with the Y chromosome. I giggled, and I want to tell Andy he's a rapist now. And thats one of the thing that torks me is that, I mean it is bad enough as it is, but the man is at the beck and call of a woman, if she gets an abortion, he lost his child, if she has the child, she can either make him pay child support or they will stay together. In essence, we help create the being, then have no right about it, and if we try and get away, we are just dead beat. And I feel this is why alot of men push the abortion option on to their mate, is because they don't want to be forced to go along with this somehow.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:05 am
Lady__Miko Y'know I'm getting pretty sick off this "well our side has more freedoms." since when does having more choices mean someone's side is better? Rules are suddenly a bad thing? More freedom is ALWAYS better, no matter who it hurts, which is why we should get rid of antitrust laws, labor laws, environmental protections and the minimum wage. (Note to the slow-witted: I'm being completely sarcastic, no flamey plz.)
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:37 pm
lymelady It is my policy that when someone calls me anti-choice, I call him or her anti-life. Same here, I also call them pro-abortion and when they complain i'll telling them i'll stop calling them that when they stop calling be anti-choice. For one thing being pro-life doesn't mean we stop them from making choices, we just disagree with some choices or reasons behide the choices they make. If we were really anti-choice, we would force all woman to give birth. Besides just because you can make your own choices, doesn't make it right or good. You techically can choose to run a red light and risk an accident or getting pulled over by the police, that is a choice.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:39 am
sachiko_sohma lymelady It is my policy that when someone calls me anti-choice, I call him or her anti-life. Same here, I also call them pro-abortion and when they complain i'll telling them i'll stop calling them that when they stop calling be anti-choice. For one thing being pro-life doesn't mean we stop them from making choices, we just disagree with some choices or reasons behide the choices they make. If we were really anti-choice, we would force all woman to give birth. Besides just because you can make your own choices, doesn't make it right or good. You techically can choose to run a red light and risk an accident or getting pulled over by the police, that is a choice. EXACTLY! Teenwire did a video a few years back called, "A Hero for Choice!" or something like that. The main character was a young, successful African American woman talking about how we all make choices everyday. The car was at a stoplight and she said, "I can choose to run this red light!" I'm sitting there thinking, of course...but you'd be breaking the law. Which...is exactly how I stand on abortion. Choose it, but if you do, you're breaking a law. Just like I stand on every other choice.
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