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This responses are getting too predictable because I do not share a cookie-cutter viewpoint, not only am I accused of being a racist, I'm also accused of being ethnocentrist!

And I'm a dual citizen! I don't even have pride in America! I'm actually kind of embarrassed and ashamed to live here. How's that for "ethnocentrism"?

By the way, Je parle francais.

Yea it's true that the Iraq war is gobbling up too much money. Don't blame me that too many Americans are so godamned dumb that they voted Mr. Bush NOT once- but TWICE, and then whine when he blows us up in debt over a country that had nothing to do with 911, and a project that we're totally failing in. But that still doesn't skirt the illegal immigrant issue. Especially when in America, illegal immigrants and criminals in the prison system get treated BETTER than working poor, than disabled people, minorities etc.

If the people who actually followed the rules (old people, minorities, disabled people, legal immigrants, etc) were taken care of better than they are NOW in America, maybe I wouldn't mind the generosity pouring over to illegal immigrants. (I do, on the other hand, mind generosity given to criminals in the prison system.)

But I am very sure that you certainly have no qualms throwing tax money from your hard earned money to people who are getting a free ride at your expense. Wait, what was that? You don't work? Oh, nevermind. It's obvious why you wouldn't care if the surge of this "illegal" demographic is stressing the system!

Of course its obvious that they want to come to America for a better life. You think there's people who are unaware of this fact? But if you really feel so genuine about what you just said about how everyone is just an illegal immigrant historically, you might as well donate all of the land and assets you own RIGHT NOW to the Native Americans and start picking cotton for your black neighbors. What was that- you don't want to? Ok then, I hope my point got drilled in.

Just because I mention my Chinese legal immigrant friend, doesn't mean that she's a "token". I have more non-white friends, and certainly more ethnic friends from other countries than I do white.

Just because I have criticized people breaking the Chinese law in their country, does not mean that I don't see any pros about China, the people, their culture. It does not mean that I agree with all Chinese laws.

There is a REAL, GLOBAL problem of overpopulation. China, India, and the U.S. have the highest populations in the world. When the law says "do not have more than 1-2 kids", or when the capitalist system designs it so that it is expensive to have multiple kids, they aren't doing it to be repressive assholes. It's a legal and economic solution to what is a global concern. The more people out there, the less resources there are for everyone. The more expendable and marginalized human life becomes.

Where the population is so dense in the Southeast asian countries, and so many people fighting tooth and nail for precious few jobs... you find lots of sweatshops and other manufacturing going on where the laborers work pennies to the U.S. dollar a day. The sheer density of people there works against their interests in an improved quality of life.

Just because I criticize one aspect, or a few aspects of something, does not mean that I hate entire groups of people for moronic reasons "color of their skin" bullshit. Only morons think that a person's "color of their skin" has anything to do with their capabilities as human beings. rolleyes But if I criticize a trend, the blanket reaction is to be labeled as a racist just because I happen to be a "white American" girl, and, you see, "only white people can be the racists".

You, personally, may not have had anything to do with it, and maybe your ancestors didn't, either. But America was once a colony and the people that live here now were not the first to settle it. They took it from the people who did.

We can't just totally ignore the problem's you've described. But deporting all the Mexican immigrants isn't the solution, either. I, personally, hate it when people try to place blame on illegal immigrants. They're fleeing from a situation that was intolerable. My mom went to Mexico recently and she says it's a horrid slum. Can you really blame them for coming over? They SHOULD have immigrated legally, but life just isn't that easy.

Having signs in multiple languages is very common in places where people do not all speak one language. I really don't understand why you see this as a problem.

I seriously doubt that the problems you're having with schools and hospitals are all due to illegal immigration. It just doesn't sound plausible. How many of these people need to be in the hospital at a time? And how do they even go there without being caught and deported? Since they can't afford healthcare, what should they do instead?

They may be a burden to society, but that doesn't mean we should attack or abandon them. What happened to empathy, mercy, and respect for people? Frankly, you and Grip of Death really just seem to be bashing these people who are in a situation they have very little control over.



I'm not saying they're more important than the legal citizens. I just don't pick and choose when it comes to human rights. They're here illegally, they're a burden, but they are still people.

And I don't see where this "burden" thing is coming from. Out here, they're all working shitty jobs and living in crappy housing. Some of them are camped out in the hills around my house living off of dog food and baby formula. They're working their asses off to stay here.



I don't work yet.

My parents do. They work hard. They don't have any money to retire with. My father can't even afford to get dentures right now. I'm going to have to struggle to get through college and buy a car. But we still give help to people worse off than us. That's how I was raised and what my family beleives in. We don't attack people worse off than us for being a drain on the system, because being poor is not their fault.



That's really shitty, but it's totally true. But a huge part of that is because women do not always have access to family planning. And the repression of these women is just going to keep them poor, thus keeping them from having a choice. And when I say choice, I mean choice. Even if that choice is to be a ******** braindead quiverfull stepford zombie pumping out more of the same. Taking away women's bodily domain like they do in China is not an acceptable solution. People need to stop breeding, but that will only be acheived when women are taught that they are independent human beings who don't need to have kids to be complete and even the poorest women have access to the reproductive healthcare they need.



It's not that at all. It's the comments about their language and their socioeconomic status. Complaining that a sign is in two languages is really pathetic. And so is making the assumption that all immigrants are stupid drains on the system. Even if they are, it's probably because they were raised in a shitty environment and had no education. When people are raised like this, thinking society has failed them, they form their own little counterculture that tries to rebel against this system. At least that's what I see.

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