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 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:06 pm
adabyron Screaming Wombat Ah yes, those issues could prove troublesome, I'm not really sure how those could be fixed, although transfer time could be shorter if there was less traffic on the roads from the car tax. Speaking from my own experience, I very rarely have transfer time issues due to traffic on the road. Public transit takes longer because they have to stop more often. There's really no way around that since the whole idea is that you aren't the only person who has somewhere to go. Transfers take a while because there are only so many busses, trains, whatever to go around. For example, the bus I take to work runs every 15 minutes during most daylight hours. That's a pretty good interval, since it means I will never wait more than 15 minutes for a bus, excepting events outside of my control (such as the bus breaking down or being slowed by bad weather, and such incidents are not limited to public transit and so cannot be counted against it). However, if I have to take three different busses to get where I'm going, even if they all run every 15 minutes, I could potentially be waiting, say 10 minutes for each transfer. That's 20 minutes of me standing around waiting outside. It has nothing to do with traffic. However, if all those people who stop driving cars are now riding the bus, and generating revenue to improve the transit system as well as demand for more frequent transit, it may then increase the frequency of the busses and then shorten the transfer times. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:02 pm
rikuHEART adabyron Speaking from my own experience, I very rarely have transfer time issues due to traffic on the road. Public transit takes longer because they have to stop more often. There's really no way around that since the whole idea is that you aren't the only person who has somewhere to go. Transfers take a while because there are only so many busses, trains, whatever to go around. For example, the bus I take to work runs every 15 minutes during most daylight hours. That's a pretty good interval, since it means I will never wait more than 15 minutes for a bus, excepting events outside of my control (such as the bus breaking down or being slowed by bad weather, and such incidents are not limited to public transit and so cannot be counted against it). However, if I have to take three different busses to get where I'm going, even if they all run every 15 minutes, I could potentially be waiting, say 10 minutes for each transfer. That's 20 minutes of me standing around waiting outside. It has nothing to do with traffic. However, if all those people who stop driving cars are now riding the bus, and generating revenue to improve the transit system as well as demand for more frequent transit, it may then increase the frequency of the busses and then shorten the transfer times. 3nodding That's the trick, isn't it. More people would ride if it were more convenient. It would be more convenient if more people would ride. stressed
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:13 pm
adabyron rikuHEART adabyron Speaking from my own experience, I very rarely have transfer time issues due to traffic on the road. Public transit takes longer because they have to stop more often. There's really no way around that since the whole idea is that you aren't the only person who has somewhere to go. Transfers take a while because there are only so many busses, trains, whatever to go around. For example, the bus I take to work runs every 15 minutes during most daylight hours. That's a pretty good interval, since it means I will never wait more than 15 minutes for a bus, excepting events outside of my control (such as the bus breaking down or being slowed by bad weather, and such incidents are not limited to public transit and so cannot be counted against it). However, if I have to take three different busses to get where I'm going, even if they all run every 15 minutes, I could potentially be waiting, say 10 minutes for each transfer. That's 20 minutes of me standing around waiting outside. It has nothing to do with traffic. However, if all those people who stop driving cars are now riding the bus, and generating revenue to improve the transit system as well as demand for more frequent transit, it may then increase the frequency of the busses and then shorten the transfer times. 3nodding That's the trick, isn't it. More people would ride if it were more convenient. It would be more convenient if more people would ride. stressed
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:39 pm
i think we need more public transportation in the suburbs. I live in suburban Pennsylvania and everything is just far enough that you can't walk to it. There are no buses to take. Even places you can walk to, there barely any sidewalks. There are some but they end at parts so you have to walk on the side of the road to get anywhere. We have the money. I live in a community where we buy new Christmas lights every year but we're too cheap to fix the crosswalks.
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:56 pm
funwithjoysticks i think we need more public transportation in the suburbs. I live in suburban Pennsylvania and everything is just far enough that you can't walk to it. There are no buses to take. Even places you can walk to, there barely any sidewalks. There are some but they end at parts so you have to walk on the side of the road to get anywhere. We have the money. I live in a community where we buy new Christmas lights every year but we're too cheap to fix the crosswalks. Oh yeah, something definately needs to be done about suburbia. a concept that arose where everyone had a car and gasoline was less than a dollar, it's definately gonna have to change once we reach the top of Hubbert's Peak, if we haven't already.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:13 pm
The only kind of public transportation in my area is bus.
As if our traffic wasn't bad enough already. xp lol
But the buses are all over the place, including the suburbs. So we're pretty good about that. biggrin
And I hear that they're building a monorail downtown and extending the rails of something else that I don't remember. x_______x
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:04 am
funwithjoysticks i think we need more public transportation in the suburbs. I live in suburban Pennsylvania and everything is just far enough that you can't walk to it. There are no buses to take. Even places you can walk to, there barely any sidewalks. There are some but they end at parts so you have to walk on the side of the road to get anywhere. We have the money. I live in a community where we buy new Christmas lights every year but we're too cheap to fix the crosswalks. I think that pretty much every North American suburb I've ever been to is pedestrian-hostile. One of many reasons I could never live in one. Busses here go to suburbs, but they're very limited. Many suburban bus lines are only for commuting to work . That is, they only operate Monday through Friday, and they have a few morning busses into downtown, and a few afternoon busses out of downtown. There may be just one or two times in each direction. This set up assumes that you have a car to get around for most of your activities, but want out of rush hour. (Busses here drive on the shoulder past all the traffic and/or take special bus-only routes, so if you are coming a hefty distance during certain times of day, it may actually be faster than driving.)
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:53 pm
My city is pretty good about both suburbs and city public transportation. smile We have buses going to the mall, to schools, to parks, to transit centers, to libraries, and to every random corner of the street. mrgreen
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