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 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:14 am
So after a summer away I now have something new I can add to the discussion. Those of you who know me and my practice would probably think that I go to a pretty observant camp, right? Except no, I don't. Pinemere is JCC affiliated. We keep kosher. We have short Shabbat services Friday night and Saturday morning, about an hour each. We say Ha'Motzi before each meal (Hebrew and English) and sing the first paragraph of Birkat Ha'Mazon after dinner. And at flagpole every morning we say the Shma after the Pledge of Aleigance.
Except as a CIT I was never around any of that! We were at services, yes, but we eat seperately so we don't bother with any praying at meals, and we don't go to flagpole because we eat breakfast in our unit. And I spent an entire summer totally comfortable with that! And our services have a lot of english and are very stripped down. And I'm totally cool with it.The only thing I do differently at services is that I won't say the Imahot during the Amidah and I change Ha'Col to Ha'Meytim.
Is that weird, that I just don't care about observance as much at camp?
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:28 pm
Kiashana So after a summer away I now have something new I can add to the discussion. Those of you who know me and my practice would probably think that I go to a pretty observant camp, right? Except no, I don't. Pinemere is JCC affiliated. We keep kosher. We have short Shabbat services Friday night and Saturday morning, about an hour each. We say Ha'Motzi before each meal (Hebrew and English) and sing the first paragraph of Birkat Ha'Mazon after dinner. And at flagpole every morning we say the Shma after the Pledge of Aleigance. Except as a CIT I was never around any of that! We were at services, yes, but we eat seperately so we don't bother with any praying at meals, and we don't go to flagpole because we eat breakfast in our unit. And I spent an entire summer totally comfortable with that! And our services have a lot of english and are very stripped down. And I'm totally cool with it.The only thing I do differently at services is that I won't say the Imahot during the Amidah and I change Ha'Col to Ha'Meytim. Is that weird, that I just don't care about observance as much at camp? Camp is supposed to be all about the fun.
If you were having fun, and didn't have a problem with the religious aspect, I don't think that's a bad thing.
This of course, coming from one of the least religious Jews here. > _>;;
I remember going to Shabbatons and Adat Noar weekends where we'd do Birkat and I wouldn't even know the words. Maybe a 10th of the kids there would actually knew the prayers and actively participated.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:05 am
Amitzah Camp is supposed to be all about the fun.
If you were having fun, and didn't have a problem with the religious aspect, I don't think that's a bad thing.
This of course, coming from one of the least religious Jews here. > _>;;
I remember going to Shabbatons and Adat Noar weekends where we'd do Birkat and I wouldn't even know the words. Maybe a 10th of the kids there would actually knew the prayers and actively participated. Well, there's a little more to it. In previous summers, I never felt like what we do at camp was enough! I used to bring my pocket-edition Siddur Sim Shalom and wake up early or stay up late to daven Shabbas services, and sometimes I'd even be davening weekday Shacharit (the morning service) before everyone else was even awake! And this year, I just didn't care. It's weird.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:27 pm
Kiashana Amitzah Camp is supposed to be all about the fun.
If you were having fun, and didn''t have a problem with the religious aspect, I don''t think that''s a bad thing.
This of course, coming from one of the least religious Jews here. > _>;;
I remember going to Shabbatons and Adat Noar weekends where we''d do Birkat and I wouldn''t even know the words. Maybe a 10th of the kids there would actually knew the prayers and actively participated. Well, there''s a little more to it. In previous summers, I never felt like what we do at camp was enough! I used to bring my pocket-edition Siddur Sim Shalom and wake up early or stay up late to daven Shabbas services, and sometimes I''d even be davening weekday Shacharit (the morning service) before everyone else was even awake! And this year, I just didn''t care. It''s weird. Whoa... @_@
Off topic: I accidently hit the edit button on this one instead of quote. > >;;
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:55 am
Amitzah Kiashana Amitzah Camp is supposed to be all about the fun.
If you were having fun, and didn''t have a problem with the religious aspect, I don''t think that''s a bad thing.
This of course, coming from one of the least religious Jews here. > _>;;
I remember going to Shabbatons and Adat Noar weekends where we''d do Birkat and I wouldn''t even know the words. Maybe a 10th of the kids there would actually knew the prayers and actively participated. Well, there''s a little more to it. In previous summers, I never felt like what we do at camp was enough! I used to bring my pocket-edition Siddur Sim Shalom and wake up early or stay up late to daven Shabbas services, and sometimes I''d even be davening weekday Shacharit (the morning service) before everyone else was even awake! And this year, I just didn''t care. It''s weird. Whoa... @_@
Off topic: I accidently hit the edit button on this one instead of quote. > >;; Off-off-topic: Don't you hate it when you do that! I do it all the time, it's such a pain!
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:57 am
Kiashana Amitzah Kiashana Amitzah Camp is supposed to be all about the fun.
If you were having fun, and didn''t have a problem with the religious aspect, I don''t think that''s a bad thing.
This of course, coming from one of the least religious Jews here. > _>;;
I remember going to Shabbatons and Adat Noar weekends where we''d do Birkat and I wouldn''t even know the words. Maybe a 10th of the kids there would actually knew the prayers and actively participated. Well, there''s a little more to it. In previous summers, I never felt like what we do at camp was enough! I used to bring my pocket-edition Siddur Sim Shalom and wake up early or stay up late to daven Shabbas services, and sometimes I''d even be davening weekday Shacharit (the morning service) before everyone else was even awake! And this year, I just didn''t care. It''s weird. Whoa... @_@
Off topic: I accidently hit the edit button on this one instead of quote. > >;; Off-off-topic: Don't you hate it when you do that! I do it all the time, it's such a pain! Really off topic: Fo rizzle. @ @;;
And I just did it again. x_x
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:43 pm
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who felt odd at Reform services.
I'd been talking to a fantastic Rabbi for quite some time and decided one day to go to a Kabbalat Shabbat service. They had a full on band and were singing songs I'd never heard before (in English, of course) and I couldn't follow along with anything sweatdrop My boyfriend kept asking me where we were and I had no idea.
After that, there was this... healing prayer where they had people come up and have a massive group hug. While the really odd songs continued on, of course.
I haven't been back since. Give me a Conservative shul anyday.
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:20 am
most of our congregation is made up of college kids. and they barely know how to daven anything. so when we have a lot of them come. the rabbi splits up the shul and davens less with the college kids so that the other people (like me) can daven just as much as before
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