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From resent studies I have found out that this form and the way we live isn't nessisarrily our real lives. They are more like an experience form. According to many psychics and scientists, we have at least three forms of excistance but are only aware of one. The one that we are aware of is the material form. The other two are the etheric and astral forms. The etheric form is where ghosts reside I believe. The etheric unlike our consious world when something is distroyed it rematerializes. Like if a person has lost a leg, in that realm of our selves the leg is still there. This form can in fact be seen by some psychics. The astral is another self we are unaware of which is of more finer "stuff" then the etheric plane. The astral is a place of pure thought and our forms of thought excist there. There are also other beings born there which can be dangerous if one is an astral traveler.

These worlds excist not on top of each other like many would so believe. They are just as close to us as we are close to them. We live in harmony with them because they excist on a different vibration of energy then we do. The material being the most lowest form of energy. They do not consist of our ups and downs and side to sides. It is just that they are on a more higher level of energy.

After death we go to the astral plane leaving our bodies behind along with our energy shells which represent our astral human bodies. After some time of movement through rising to a spiritual heightness we move on to the unknown realms of which only one not connected to the material world can go. In other words, back to "god" (if you so call it that.) After a time there it is possible reincarnation takes place to start the entire cycle of things all over again!


In all aspects I find this explaination of life very believeable as to experiencing some of it my self. smile

That's very interesting, and I can understand it. It reminds me of astral projection, though, and how there might be things around me only my astral self can see. So... it kind of scares me.

I'm thinking this is like a version of pseudo Christianity?

You have some excellent points, I myself consider life not as a privilege or a gift, but as an opportunity. Of course, if what you say is true, those beliefs will vanish with my death, so its a moot point. You also brought up the interesting "phantom limb" designation. This is a psychological effect I am currently studying. For those who don't know:

1. The phantom limb effect is triggered by losing an arm or a leg.

2.Even if that limb is gone forever, it has been with you for your entire life and thus your brain cannot forget it.

3. The feeling is, simply described, as having a limb without a limb. Sometimes you feel like you can move it, and sometimes you can't.

Celtic Mystick, you sound like a Jedi. biggrin And while some of what you say is true, there are, believe it or not, some positive effects to fear.

1. First of all, it makes you believe. If you fear something you didn't know existed, then you believe that it is really there.

2.It quickens your senses. When in a state of panic or nervousness, your hearing becomes sharper, you move more reflexively (although moving mostly involves running), and in some cases, you have enhanced vision.

3. It is an emotion. It is part of the thing that makes you human. The ones who have no fear are the ones who are foolish.

It's interesting... that I was just thinking about this very same thing a few minutes before I got onto my computer.

I've thought along those exact lines for years- and it makes me happy that it is becoming a more widely accepted concept.

Have you ever seen Clockstoppers? I think that is what the movie was called...
but anyway, in it this kid has a watch, which speeds up his vibration, so that he moves so fast, that he cannot be seen by anything on the same vibration that our physical beings are on.
I realize this is not quite the same thing, but it's always interesting when media becames more connected to our philosophies, eh?

We are not necessarily talking about what takes place after death, but of realities we are not physically aware of during life.
Whether those realities continue to exist thereafter cannot really be considered unless you accept the idea of them existing now.

It made a lot of sense, since I myself actually believe in it without knowing the full description of it (sort of). But I forget, if ghost DO exist (and not those fake set up some people put up on camera), then what are they really? Other beside the form we are aware of?

*sigh* yes, that is very depressing that we die that way and cease to exist after that. That why I hope the other form exist, wether they can be proven or not (it strange where if we were just born and much much later, we die without anything after, we still worked very hard in life; almost too strange, but hey I don't pay attention to that kind of stuff >_>)



NOTE: I am also referring to survivial when I said 'worked hard in life'