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 Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:58 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:03 pm
Kalorn Liberi Glacialis I think it's what we made with our own hands that's unnatural. Don't take that in a Christain way, I'm an Atheist. We are natural, what we eat is natrual, we we breed (the cows, dogs, cats, and whatever else) is natural (to a point). Our houses, our techonolgy, our medecines aren't, or at least not anymore. so if these aren�t natural, are termite mounds, tools that other primates make, and grass that dogs eat to make themselves throw-up when they aren�t feeling well unnatural? termite mounds are natural, see them doing anything else to them? the tools might not be natural, but I'm not gonna put up a fight on that one. some medicines (like that grass) are still natural. Never said they all weren't.
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:27 am
Liberi Glacialis Kalorn Liberi Glacialis I think it's what we made with our own hands that's unnatural. Don't take that in a Christain way, I'm an Atheist. We are natural, what we eat is natrual, we we breed (the cows, dogs, cats, and whatever else) is natural (to a point). Our houses, our techonolgy, our medecines aren't, or at least not anymore. so if these aren�t natural, are termite mounds, tools that other primates make, and grass that dogs eat to make themselves throw-up when they aren�t feeling well unnatural? termite mounds are natural, see them doing anything else to them? the tools might not be natural, but I'm not gonna put up a fight on that one. some medicines (like that grass) are still natural. Never said they all weren't. what do you mean "doing anything else to them?" what makes a medicine natural or unnatural?
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:51 pm
If I loose the clothes and all my stuff, find my own food and build a shelter out of the earth around me then yes I am natural. I might not be acting like the natural human in America though lol. On the other hand I am an animal just as natural as the next living, breathing creature.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:07 am
Henbane If I loose the clothes and all my stuff, find my own food and build a shelter out of the earth around me then yes I am natural. I might not be acting like the natural human in America though lol. On the other hand I am an animal just as natural as the next living, breathing creature. so would you say the fact that we wear clothes is unatural?
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:44 am
Clothes are perfectly natural. So is all of our technology, as it's certainly our natural inclination to develop such things. As I argued earlier in this thread, it's debatable whether anything can possibly be anything OTHER than natural. It's entirely a matter of perspective.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:05 pm
Yes you are right Starlock, it is just a matter of perspective. I just have a jumbled up mess of perspective razz
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:29 pm
Well I think I was comparing humans with other animals which I realy shouldn't have done. And just argueing for the sake of argueing lol
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:53 pm
Quote: so would you say the fact that we wear clothes is unatural? I was saying both. If I ran out in the street right now completely naked something bad would likely happen to me because it is not socially acceptable for me to do that and would scare a lot of children. But maybe somewhere outside of America it is a little bit more normal and natural to do so by necessity. Occasionally, I see food and sometimes clothes that say they are made of natural and organic things. The same thing with medicine. They could be natural anyway you put it. Humans naturally make things, so artificial flavors are natural. Something that says made with all natural ingredients usually means no man made things are put into it. Organic usually means to people no drugs, hormones, and pesticides are in it. I know scientifically, organic means it has Carbon Hydrogen and Oxygen. Anyway, blah Im sure there are 1000 other ways to figure if I want to call clothing on humans natural or otherwise.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:14 pm
Well, if you think about it, people don't just wear clothes because it's our inclination to develop technology, we have that inclination in the first place for survival. For us to not bake our skin and get skin cancer all the time, we wear clothes. So we can live in cold places, we wear clothes. If it's for survival, you could say that's natural, right?
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:04 am
Yes, it would be natural. smile
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:21 am
The way that I personally define natural vs unnatural is that one is made, the other created. There's not much difference in those words, only in the implication of who was in charge at the time. To say that humans are not natural, is to say that humans were not created by the same force that created everything else. Did aliens come to the planet and turn monkeys into men? Some people believe that. But then, who created the aliens? If they were natural, then aren't those things they create natural? If they weren't natural, what created them, and why wasn't it natural?
I define things as unnatural when they are made to not resemble nature, or made without nature's processes. Science progresses farther and farther, and what they find is that nature really does do it best. True, some things we can do without nature, and some things we are getting closer to doing. But there's a lot more that science has yet to learn.
Humans, I believe, were made of this world and for this world. We are natural.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:47 pm
Kalorn it seems that a lot of people here free that if something is "unnatural" than it's bad. why is this? and how do you define unnatural? To find what unnatural is, I worked backwards.
Nature = Earth, life, death, etc.
Natural = Of nature.
Unnatural = Not of nature.
Humans are natural; we are of nature.
Or, at the least, originally of nature.
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:03 pm
Lady Purplepants The way that I personally define natural vs unnatural is that one is made, the other created. There's not much difference in those words, only in the implication of who was in charge at the time. To say that humans are not natural, is to say that humans were not created by the same force that created everything else. Did aliens come to the planet and turn monkeys into men? Some people believe that. But then, who created the aliens? If they were natural, then aren't those things they create natural? If they weren't natural, what created them, and why wasn't it natural?
I define things as unnatural when they are made to not resemble nature, or made without nature's processes. Science progresses farther and farther, and what they find is that nature really does do it best. True, some things we can do without nature, and some things we are getting closer to doing. But there's a lot more that science has yet to learn.
Humans, I believe, were made of this world and for this world. We are natural. so where would you draw the line?
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