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 Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:12 pm
Hikari Aijuntani WatersMoon110 But I don't think the solution to this problem is getting rid of abortion in India (or China), as they might very well go back to killing female infants, but rather to help them to see female children as a blessing rather than a burden, as all children deserve to be seen. I agree, it would be the ideal situation to make both genders equally as important to cultures like that. But I really don't think in this day that going back to killing a child post-birth would start again. I think too many countries would step up to stop it. Kinda like when Hitler started killing people off based on their religion, eye color, and/or hair color. Hopefully. Though it is harder to stop multiple individuals from killing a few others humans here and there than to stop one individual from killing millions of other humans in camps. But I think that it is the cultural stigma against females, and not abortion, that is the problem. That is what I was trying to say. Of course, from your point of view, I imagine that both are problems. Though, in this case, it is the anti-female culture that is leading to abortions, and not the other way around. So I don't think that outlawing abortions (and, I think that abortions for gender reasons is not allowed in India, though that might be China or Japan that I am thinking of...) will solve the main problem in this case, and might lead (back) to other problems. If that made any sense at all. *grin*
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:22 pm
WatersMoon110 Hopefully. Though it is harder to stop multiple individuals from killing a few others humans here and there than to stop one individual from killing millions of other humans in camps. But I think that it is the cultural stigma against females, and not abortion, that is the problem. That is what I was trying to say. Of course, from your point of view, I imagine that both are problems. Though, in this case, it is the anti-female culture that is leading to abortions, and not the other way around. So I don't think that outlawing abortions (and, I think that abortions for gender reasons is not allowed in India, though that might be China or Japan that I am thinking of...) will solve the main problem in this case, and might lead (back) to other problems. If that made any sense at all. *grin* I don't think its allowed anymore in any country but that doesn't stop it from happening, I think, because the option for abortion is still there. Even revealing the gender through ultrasound isn't allowed anymore in some countries (i.e. India). But again it doesn't stop it from happening. But i do understand your point. A lot of things, especially cultural outlooks need to change before other options are pursued.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:47 pm
That's nasty!!! Who'd want a smelly boy rather than a beautiful young lady-daughter?
lol Kidding! I'm JOKING! JOKING! gonk
Anyways, that's why I'm pro-CHOICE.
Those people are anti-girl and pro-abortion. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:22 pm
To Waters and Chat:
And i'm for having an optimistic view of the adoption system. Yet, I seem to recall seeing "RACISM AND PREJUDICE IN THE ADOPTION SYSYTEM" being shoved in my face like it's going out of style.
As far as I'm concerned, I will no longer pull my punches on that issue, Abortion too is something used to an evil end in many places of the world and this is one of them.
Those women have been brainwashed to believing what they're doing is good. As far as i'm concerned, abortion, as well as some other things, just further the issue and prevent these people from living a life that isn't rooted in mysogeny.
They are not pro-abortion either, Chat, at least I would argue such. Likewise, they aren't anti-girl to the extent of sexual genocide, they just prefer boys in all circumstances.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:47 pm
..Le Chat du Noir.. That's nasty!!! Who'd want a smelly boy rather than a beautiful young lady-daughter? lol Kidding! I'm JOKING! JOKING! gonk Anyways, that's why I'm pro-CHOICE. Those people are anti-girl and pro-abortion. 3nodding There's no difference. You allow discrimination based on convienence, they allow it based on sex. It's still selective breeding even if it's based on timing rather then physical characteristics. They choose to terminate because the baby isn't what they wanted, you choose to terminate because the baby wasn't when you wanted.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:21 pm
Well if that keeps going, India's going have a major population drop if there is more of one gender and very little of another.
They are going to end up killing themselves off...
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:59 pm
MiNdCaNdY There's no difference. You allow discrimination based on convienence, they allow it based on sex. It's still selective breeding even if it's based on timing rather then physical characteristics. They choose to terminate because the baby isn't what they wanted, you choose to terminate because the baby wasn't when you wanted. Obviously, sexism causes problems for born females as well, but in terms of elective abortion, the outcome is the same--they're all unwanted. They may say the world is flat these days, but then you get cultures like this that are so far removed from developed areas it's like they're from another century.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:25 pm
MiNdCaNdY ..Le Chat du Noir.. That's nasty!!! Who'd want a smelly boy rather than a beautiful young lady-daughter? lol Kidding! I'm JOKING! JOKING! gonk Anyways, that's why I'm pro-CHOICE. Those people are anti-girl and pro-abortion. 3nodding There's no difference. You allow discrimination based on convienence, they allow it based on sex. It's still selective breeding even if it's based on timing rather then physical characteristics. They choose to terminate because the baby isn't what they wanted, you choose to terminate because the baby wasn't when you wanted. Aye, I see that you're pro-life. 4laugh Hello, I'm pro-choice! That applies to you, not to me. Yes, I'm in your guild and in your hospitality. I still think that they're anti-girl. xd
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:26 pm
kp606 To Waters and Chat: And i'm for having an optimistic view of the adoption system. Yet, I seem to recall seeing "RACISM AND PREJUDICE IN THE ADOPTION SYSYTEM" being shoved in my face like it's going out of style. As far as I'm concerned, I will no longer pull my punches on that issue, Abortion too is something used to an evil end in many places of the world and this is one of them. Those women have been brainwashed to believing what they're doing is good. As far as i'm concerned, abortion, as well as some other things, just further the issue and prevent these people from living a life that isn't rooted in mysogeny. They are not pro-abortion either, Chat, at least I would argue such. Likewise, they aren't anti-girl to the extent of sexual genocide, they just prefer boys in all circumstances. Aye, Captain! I'm just pro-support women whether they choose to keep it or abort it. I think that shunning someone because of something like THAT just ain't worth the knoddle.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:42 pm
..Le Chat du Noir.. kp606 To Waters and Chat: And i'm for having an optimistic view of the adoption system. Yet, I seem to recall seeing "RACISM AND PREJUDICE IN THE ADOPTION SYSYTEM" being shoved in my face like it's going out of style. As far as I'm concerned, I will no longer pull my punches on that issue, Abortion too is something used to an evil end in many places of the world and this is one of them. Those women have been brainwashed to believing what they're doing is good. As far as i'm concerned, abortion, as well as some other things, just further the issue and prevent these people from living a life that isn't rooted in mysogeny. They are not pro-abortion either, Chat, at least I would argue such. Likewise, they aren't anti-girl to the extent of sexual genocide, they just prefer boys in all circumstances. Aye, Captain! I'm just pro-support women whether they choose to keep it or abort it. I think that shunning someone because of something like THAT just ain't worth the knoddle.
I'm pro-support women whether they choose to keep it or abort.
Women deserve our respect whatever choices they make. They just need to know the kind of choice that they made, and such.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:19 pm
..Le Chat du Noir.. MiNdCaNdY ..Le Chat du Noir.. That's nasty!!! Who'd want a smelly boy rather than a beautiful young lady-daughter? lol Kidding! I'm JOKING! JOKING! gonk Anyways, that's why I'm pro-CHOICE. Those people are anti-girl and pro-abortion. 3nodding There's no difference. You allow discrimination based on convienence, they allow it based on sex. It's still selective breeding even if it's based on timing rather then physical characteristics. They choose to terminate because the baby isn't what they wanted, you choose to terminate because the baby wasn't when you wanted. Aye, I see that you're pro-life. 4laugh Hello, I'm pro-choice! That applies to you, not to me. Yes, I'm in your guild and in your hospitality. I still think that they're anti-girl. xd so wait, because you're pro choice that means my argument dosn't count? that's like when i was 5 and kids were saying 'i'm rubber you're glue.' If you have some kind of argument that you can use to explain what makes your views any better then theirs, i'd love to hear it, but from where i stand, both are just as disgusting.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:47 pm
Same here chat. We support the woman what ever desision she makes. Dosn't mean we have to support the desition though.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:56 pm
Mcphee ..Le Chat du Noir.. kp606 To Waters and Chat: And i'm for having an optimistic view of the adoption system. Yet, I seem to recall seeing "RACISM AND PREJUDICE IN THE ADOPTION SYSYTEM" being shoved in my face like it's going out of style. As far as I'm concerned, I will no longer pull my punches on that issue, Abortion too is something used to an evil end in many places of the world and this is one of them. Those women have been brainwashed to believing what they're doing is good. As far as i'm concerned, abortion, as well as some other things, just further the issue and prevent these people from living a life that isn't rooted in mysogeny. They are not pro-abortion either, Chat, at least I would argue such. Likewise, they aren't anti-girl to the extent of sexual genocide, they just prefer boys in all circumstances. Aye, Captain! I'm just pro-support women whether they choose to keep it or abort it. I think that shunning someone because of something like THAT just ain't worth the knoddle.
I'm pro-support women whether they choose to keep it or abort.
Women deserve our respect whatever choices they make. They just need to know the kind of choice that they made, and such. Aye. I'm for giving women accurate information and letting them make their own desicions. If she wants to abort, I'll support her. If she wants to put the baby up for adoption, I'll support her, if she wants to keep it, hell, I'm not going to stop her! O_o
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:59 pm
MiNdCaNdY ..Le Chat du Noir.. MiNdCaNdY ..Le Chat du Noir.. That's nasty!!! Who'd want a smelly boy rather than a beautiful young lady-daughter? lol Kidding! I'm JOKING! JOKING! gonk Anyways, that's why I'm pro-CHOICE. Those people are anti-girl and pro-abortion. 3nodding There's no difference. You allow discrimination based on convienence, they allow it based on sex. It's still selective breeding even if it's based on timing rather then physical characteristics. They choose to terminate because the baby isn't what they wanted, you choose to terminate because the baby wasn't when you wanted. Aye, I see that you're pro-life. 4laugh Hello, I'm pro-choice! That applies to you, not to me. Yes, I'm in your guild and in your hospitality. I still think that they're anti-girl. xd so wait, because you're pro choice that means my argument dosn't count? that's like when i was 5 and kids were saying 'i'm rubber you're glue.' If you have some kind of argument that you can use to explain what makes your views any better then theirs, i'd love to hear it, but from where i stand, both are just as disgusting. No, I believe she was trying to say that her point was why she is Pro-Choice, so her reasoning only applied to her. Your reasoning is different, obviously since you came to a different conclusion. She wasn't trying to say your reasoning is wrong, just that her's is different. You almost get angry enough lately that I wish to ignore you just because I don't like to see or deal with angry people. But I know that you aren't an angry person by nature, so I figure something is up. Do you need someone to talk to?
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:13 pm
we work to make this certain choice illegal. that doesn't mean that we hate everyone else on the other side. unless they are militant and bitchtacular about it.
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