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 Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:38 am
IluvSwedishFish Usually the body protects itself during rape so yes, there are less accounts of abortion due to rape.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:33 am
Sandi o_O IluvSwedishFish Usually the body protects itself during rape so yes, there are less accounts of abortion due to rape. I believe she means that the body typically prevents pregnancy when raped, because, I think, the stress causes a miscarriage.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:22 am
I.Am Sandi o_O IluvSwedishFish Usually the body protects itself during rape so yes, there are less accounts of abortion due to rape. I believe she means that the body typically prevents pregnancy when raped, because, I think, the stress causes a miscarriage. But if you go through the miscarriage than it means that you got pregnant. I know that one. I've gotten pregnant through that thing and it was probably only the fact I had sevre depression at that time that caused the miscarriage.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:16 pm
Vivnox I.Am Sandi o_O IluvSwedishFish Usually the body protects itself during rape so yes, there are less accounts of abortion due to rape. I believe she means that the body typically prevents pregnancy when raped, because, I think, the stress causes a miscarriage. But if you go through the miscarriage than it means that you got pregnant. I know that one. I've gotten pregnant through that thing and it was probably only the fact I had sevre depression at that time that caused the miscarriage. Well, I mean that it can cause a miscarriage pretty much instantly or something. That's the impression I've always gotten, at least. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:10 pm
stress doesn't equal an instant miscarriage, or most of us wouldn't be here. A lot of women get stressed during pregnancy. Stress can cause miscarriages and early labor, but it doesn't always mean a miscarriage. I've never heard anything about the body protecting itself during rape, though, that's interesting.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:50 pm
I.Am Vivnox I.Am Sandi o_O IluvSwedishFish Usually the body protects itself during rape so yes, there are less accounts of abortion due to rape. I believe she means that the body typically prevents pregnancy when raped, because, I think, the stress causes a miscarriage. But if you go through the miscarriage than it means that you got pregnant. I know that one. I've gotten pregnant through that thing and it was probably only the fact I had sevre depression at that time that caused the miscarriage. Well, I mean that it can cause a miscarriage pretty much instantly or something. That's the impression I've always gotten, at least. sweatdrop What the stress CAN do is prevent the fertilized egg from implanting much like the morning after pill. But that's only within the first two days. That would prevent pregnancy.
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:00 pm
lymelady It's not harsh, anyway. It's logical. A real doctor needs to figure out the best way to save as many lives as possible. While rape is pregnancy forced upon a girl, abortion is just as bad as childbirth, emotionally. Worse usually. Psychologically she'd be better off carrying the child to term, physically she'd be at less risk for things to go wrong if she carries to term, but she'll be pressured from everyone around her to have an abortion most likely, and THAT will give her lots of trouble in years to come. The thing I don't like about the term "pro-choice" is that much of the time, it's not the woman making the choice, it's the people in her life making it for her. Abortion is not necessarily as bad as childbirth...that is a very personal and subjective issue. Also don't forget that its not simply a case of "the emotional trauma of abortion" Vs "childbirth" ... more accurately it could be... "the emotional trauma of abortion" Vs "Childbirth and raising a child you didnt want on your own"
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:06 pm
Eeowynn lymelady It's not harsh, anyway. It's logical. A real doctor needs to figure out the best way to save as many lives as possible. While rape is pregnancy forced upon a girl, abortion is just as bad as childbirth, emotionally. Worse usually. Psychologically she'd be better off carrying the child to term, physically she'd be at less risk for things to go wrong if she carries to term, but she'll be pressured from everyone around her to have an abortion most likely, and THAT will give her lots of trouble in years to come. The thing I don't like about the term "pro-choice" is that much of the time, it's not the woman making the choice, it's the people in her life making it for her. Abortion is not necessarily as bad as childbirth...that is a very personal and subjective issue. Also don't forget that its not simply a case of "the emotional trauma of abortion" Vs "childbirth" ... more accurately it could be... "the emotional trauma of abortion" Vs "Childbirth and raising a child you didnt want on your own" Keep in mind there is always adoption. It really makes abortion seem pointless. As for being raped I heard once that you are mad at the raper not the child. It's like killing the guy down the street. The guy down the street has just as much a right to live as the child except he can bring the law into it where an unborn baby can't. You may have been raped but you're still pregnant. Sorry but thats nature. I wouldn't say that as bluntly to the pregnant woman because we should be there for the person and emotionally help her but its true.
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:18 pm
Quote: It really makes abortion seem pointless Except when one has an unwanted pregnancy. If I'm pregnant and I don't want to be pregnant... adoption isn't going to help me, because I can't put a 2 month old fetus up for adoption. Though I do strongly agree that the rape exception does not make sense from a pro-life perspective. If the fetus has the right to life why are you then justified in killing it if the father committed a crime? that would be like killing you because your dad raped a woman.
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:33 am
Eeowynn lymelady It's not harsh, anyway. It's logical. A real doctor needs to figure out the best way to save as many lives as possible. While rape is pregnancy forced upon a girl, abortion is just as bad as childbirth, emotionally. Worse usually. Psychologically she'd be better off carrying the child to term, physically she'd be at less risk for things to go wrong if she carries to term, but she'll be pressured from everyone around her to have an abortion most likely, and THAT will give her lots of trouble in years to come. The thing I don't like about the term "pro-choice" is that much of the time, it's not the woman making the choice, it's the people in her life making it for her. Abortion is not necessarily as bad as childbirth...that is a very personal and subjective issue. Also don't forget that its not simply a case of "the emotional trauma of abortion" Vs "childbirth" ... more accurately it could be... "the emotional trauma of abortion" Vs "Childbirth and raising a child you didnt want on your own" As hikid said, we don't say that the government should force you to raise the kid; There are plenty of parents waiting to adopt (Yes, I know, the adoption system isn't all that great, but the solution to that is to fix it. Not to stop using it.) And I wouldn't argue with Kate about psychology if I were you... I'm pretty sure she's a Psych major.
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