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So, if you're spending you're gil on food and powders, it sounds like you're having a pretty high flow of cash coming in if you're talking 40k.

And a melee's job is to beat the enemy and to assist the tank on that. Food is not a requirement. It's an advantage, a strategy. It only boosts the productivity of the battle, it doesn't make the job. Yes, food is very helpful and important, but it's not required.

The only time a melee is not doing their job is if they never engage the enemy. confused

thats just the thing, in the futur it is going to make your job, the acc bonus of some foods are going to be decideing your damage out put greatly and the efectiveness of the party, if a Thief has to wait for you for a skill chain you damage the rest of the partys exp and damage they can throw out, some times haveing food is like adding a few lvl on you charcter because of + strength Acc Vit what ever you need. The diffrents between ninjas food can be life or death keeping there shadows going, paladins need it to even lower the enemy high damage output because armour will not always be enough. My last party i was exping of Coliberys (spelling may be wrong) But my acc was terible on thouse because they use special abilty "Snatch morsel" which removes food effect which took away my acc bonus and Dex bonus which was makeing me do high damage.

For the record, again, I didn't advocate kicking people for not having food; I'm just saying it's not really bright when there are so many options and alternitives to the matter.

As for gear...once you get to the levels where have powders and oils counts...I don't see 20k making EPIC differences in statistics. You milage may very (server prices and the like), but it's not until you get to 100-200k that I start seeing differences that count.

Esentially, I believe it comes down to effort; either you willing to put in the extra work it will take to have what you should have, or you aren't.


By the same logic, I can ask you why oils and powders exsist in the first place. After all, if it was the WHM's job to do all this, woudn't they be the only job to have it?

For the record, I have no problem helping people out; I have problem with people's attitudes. People don't just say stuff like please and thank you...they give attitude. Something along the lines of "I didn't want to spend another three hours farming, so this is now your job. If you tell me otherwise, I'm going to whine and complain about it, and say you don't know how to do your job."

Moreover, no one has addressed my BIGGEST problem with this; Sneaking and Invising an entire party is REALLY REALLY dangerous, as none of those six seperate spells are going to ware off at "good" times. More over, people are not going to be able to easily find each other, so it leads to people getting lost, confused, and having these critical buffs ware off at horriable bad times....because people don't want to farm enough gil to make the situation secure and easier on everyone.

Sneak and Invis are a courtesy, not a requirement. If you want to tell me otherwise in party, you have the right to do that, and I can't fault you for that. Likewise, you can't fault me for deciding to wait for another party who has the sense to either be polite about the matter, or bring their own, easily purchased items.

Yeah...in some situations even WHMs need to do that; HNM/Skys LSs in particular. The whole food/oils/powders thing isn't even an arguement there. You bring them. Then again, that sort of fighting is a WEE bit different then EXP party, and that is mostly what I'm talking about.