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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:45 pm
Page 1 of "Evolution Disproves Creationalism??" Master_Rahl A very debated topic..... the answer , yes answer , is most definatly not. Anyone who thinks Evolution contradicts Creationalism is one or more of the following: 1) Ignorant of the Bible 2) Biased against religion ( something bad happened to them ) 3) Stubborn ( really stubborn ) 4) Prideful Jerk 5) Doesn't realize the Bible is figurative and symbolic 6) Hasn't yet grasped the concept MWA HA HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHA you can't deny it *cough* So what do you all think i'll explain my theory later Mahia M Me agrees. Same way SCIENCE doesn't 'disprove' God's existence. rolleyes People like that really bug me with their close-minded simplicity. panzer45 Mahia M Me agrees. Same way SCIENCE doesn't 'disprove' God's existence. rolleyes People like that really bug me with their close-minded simplicity. speaking of close-mindedness story time! ((it's short dont worry)) ANYways...we're sittin' there in scince class talkin about the expansion of the universe.....*fades into flashback* Grimmett (teacher): ....so there is no real edge to the universe, therefore we cannot measure it's expansion because it's expanding into nothing. most of the class: i dont get it... Grimmett: the human mind is too simple to grasp the concept of true nothingness me: *throws hand into the air like a primary kid* i understsand it! nothing is the absence of everything or anything, so to a hypothetical being of nothing, we are also nuthing, but also everything... evryone else: o.O *thinks to selves* crazy kid... me: what?? i just think outside the box....in the nothingness!!! Torch24601 I love to study evolution, it's the best part of biology!!! The whole thing with wolves and whales is fun! On another note, I completely understood the whole universe expanding into nothingness until panzer tired to explain it stare funtoys evolution is true to a point however, i dont think we evolved from monkey's but we do change to our enviroment. that is why most people in Africa are Black(not trying to be a racist)... that's just the way things are and how people in Alaska are mostly white. Master_Rahl lucky me i guess i don't have to explain because everyone seems to grasp the concept correctly w00t w00t Abinadi panzer45 Mahia M Me agrees. Same way SCIENCE doesn't 'disprove' God's existence. rolleyes People like that really bug me with their close-minded simplicity. speaking of close-mindedness story time! ((it's short dont worry)) ANYways...we're sittin' there in scince class talkin about the expansion of the universe.....*fades into flashback* Grimmett (teacher): ....so there is no real edge to the universe, therefore we cannot measure it's expansion because it's expanding into nothing. most of the class: i dont get it... Grimmett: the human mind is too simple to grasp the concept of true nothingness me: *throws hand into the air like a primary kid* i understsand it! nothing is the absence of everything or anything, so to a hypothetical being of nothing, we are also nuthing, but also everything... evryone else: o.O *thinks to selves* crazy kid... me: what?? i just think outside the box....in the nothingness!!! DUDE THAT SO MAKES SENSE!!!!!!! those kids in your class are bakas Harls If we evolved from monkeys...WHY are there still monkeys today? panzer45 @ abinadi: sweet thank you!!! @ torch: i guess it takes a more than average idiot to understand just look at abinadi and me..... (( what i really mean is...put your mind back in the box)) funtoys our DNA is almost exactly the same, BUT we are homo sapiens and that will not change... we didn't evolve from monkeys. humans are created in God's own image and likeness. Kafikee a couple months ago we had a very intelligent debate about this, maybe i can find the thread for ya so you can read it. Kafikee panzer45 Mahia M Me agrees. Same way SCIENCE doesn't 'disprove' God's existence. rolleyes People like that really bug me with their close-minded simplicity. speaking of close-mindedness story time! ((it's short dont worry)) ANYways...we're sittin' there in scince class talkin about the expansion of the universe.....*fades into flashback* Grimmett (teacher): ....so there is no real edge to the universe, therefore we cannot measure it's expansion because it's expanding into nothing. most of the class: i dont get it... Grimmett: the human mind is too simple to grasp the concept of true nothingness me: *throws hand into the air like a primary kid* i understsand it! nothing is the absence of everything or anything, so to a hypothetical being of nothing, we are also nuthing, but also everything... evryone else: o.O *thinks to selves* crazy kid... me: what?? i just think outside the box....in the nothingness!!! actually, there was an article in Scientific American that talked about how the idea that the universe began with one giant explosion and that it is now still expanding was an incorrect hypothesis and there was a really indepth article discussing the newest and far far more accurate relay of events. you should all read it funtoys do you have it? you could just breifly explain. Kafikee funtoys do you have it? you could just breifly explain. *shrug* i'd have to go digging around for a while... we've got a lot of magazines... actually, the only one i'm certain of its location is the one that proves the existance of hobbits (the one about the way way old society of minis) funtoys i like hobbits... as in like the hobbit or lord of the rings?
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:46 pm
Page 2 of "Evolution Disproves Creationalism??" Kafikee funtoys i like hobbits... as in like the hobbit or lord of the rings? yeah, pretty much. i have the issue in my school notebook Helaman Most people can't see the trueth unless there told and most the world tells them that God created the world by magic of sorts, not by science. Thats way the church is here, to bring forth the trueth to the nations. funtoys God made the earth through science. you know the rune language in the hobbit? i have it memorized... anyway... God used science to create all the worlds that is why things make sense... if he used a magic of sorts (he kinda did, he has all power) then things would be confusing and we wouldnt be able to create technology thus making it harder to spread the church. he had the whole thing planned. ^.~Misaki_aka_Mizaki~.^ My grandma has a magnet on her fridge that says, "And God said (insert ten-line algebraic equation here) and there was light." I find it very funny.
I heard somewhere that there was both the Evolution AND the Creation. Something like cavemen being around on Earth when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden... I don't exactly remember.
I LOVE HOBBITS! (And Elves.) I just so happen to believe that Middle Earth was real and that Hobbits and Elves and Dwarves and Wizards and all them really were alive on this world. Just look at peoples' lifespan before Noah's Ark, then after. It went from like 200+ years old to 90ish+ years old. (I have a theory on that one, too... next paragraph.) Why not have a hobbit that lives to be 111+? Anyway, just look at a map of Europe next to a map of Middle Earth. There are VERY huge similarities, if you take into account land reshaping and water erosion. The elves that left 'into the west' could well have gone to the Americas, or just started out going east, then veered north until they hit about where Scandinavia is (and what do Scandinavians look a lot like? Elves! I mean, just look at their ears!) ((I made a very huge, long, detailed explanation on the Council of Elrond website once, but I can't remember most of it. Anyway, you get it, right? No? Good.))
On the topic of Noah's Ark: I believe that the Earth once had a ring of water around it (not unlike Saturn's rings). In Genesis, I believe, it mentions the creation of the waters BELOW the firmament (seas, streams, etc.) and the waters ABOVE the firmament (said ring of water). Also, how could there be more water on Earth--enough to flood the ENTIRE WORLD--at one point than another without it having come from somewhere? Also--before Noah's Ark, people lived to 200+ years old. Now they're considered lucky to be 90. My theory: the water-ring provided UV protection, thus keeping the radiation from the sun at bay and making it so that people lived longer. Then, come Noah's Ark, God makes the water-ring collapse onto Earth, floods the entire place, and in so doing eventually causes the UV from the sun to hit people much more and thus live shorter lifetimes. In fact, maybe God could tell that if people lived shorter lifetimes, they would be more eager to get His will done first, pamper oneself later? I don't know. That's just my theory. bobajimmy I laugh when peoples say evolution disproves creation, or creation disproves evolution. They work together quite well. Torch24601 Darwin never said we evolved from monkeys. Essentially we just share a common ancestor and evolved in different directions. I think that God obeys all the laws of science, but his mind is superior so he understands it better and so he can use it for far greater purposes. I believe that evolution was the method of the creation. Abinadi Torch24601 Darwin never said we evolved from monkeys. Essentially we just share a common ancestor and evolved in different directions. I think that God obeys all the laws of science, but his mind is superior so he understands it better and so he can use it for far greater purposes. I believe that evolution was the method of the creation. darwin also wrote a book "the origin of species" and he never said anything about us evolving from monkeys as you said torch, plus he never said anything against or about god. Torch24601 Abinadi Torch24601 Darwin never said we evolved from monkeys. Essentially we just share a common ancestor and evolved in different directions. I think that God obeys all the laws of science, but his mind is superior so he understands it better and so he can use it for far greater purposes. I believe that evolution was the method of the creation. darwin also wrote a book "the origin of species" and he never said anything about us evolving from monkeys as you said torch, plus he never said anything against or about god. Yeah, it's too bad that all those churches hated him, it really made the idea harder to spread. ^.~Misaki_aka_Mizaki~.^ God works in scientific ways. "As God is, so shall we be." We are going to becomes Gods and Goddesses of you own worlds someday. If our world is going to work, we will need to know how science works and how to use it. Therefore: DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND PAY ATTENTION IN SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY NEED IT SOONER OR LATER!!! bobajimmy Torch24601 Yeah, it's too bad that all those churches hated him, it really made the idea harder to spread. Yeah, they hate it some much, yet they never took the time to learn what it is all about. Hopfully with the spreading of the Gospel, we can show them that science isn't bad, either. funtoys yeah, that's true... i never said darwin said that we evolved from monkeys. i like darwin he said things that make sense and dont contradict with our believes. bobajimmy funtoys yeah, that's true... i never said darwin said that we evolved from monkeys. i like darwin he said things that make sense and dont contradict with our believes. Exatly, but it's still wierd to find a Mormon that doesn't believe in evolution... O_o funtoys i do!!! i do!!! i'm just saying we dont evolve into different species. we're humans and that will never change.
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:04 pm
It's Sickbobbajimmy It's sick how so many young have no idea about the priesthood, including priesthood holders! chibi_brigham then give a lesson about it in quorum thats what I did. dont just be righteously outraged, do something about it. dersephy *backs away slowly* you shouldt worry about that, its the teachers job to teach them about it, and if the kids dont absorb that knowlege, they'll just pay for it later! just focus on yourself and your responsibilities. funtoys you cant just focus on yourself... you have to let people know about the points of the gospel or you'll pay for it later. dersephy i meant focus on your duties which include that, funtoys stare Torch2461 Is this because Michelle and I thought that there were actually 70 members of the quorum of the 70? It was an honest mistake! . Sakerra" there aren't 70 members eek sweatdrop hehe oops. Guess I should educate myself.... chibi_brigham"there arent 70?!? [/quote]
[quote="mina mormon there aren't? wow i feel ignorant... torch24601 Yeah, I'm constantly being educated by bob a jimmy...and I've been in the church for 15 more years then he has...I feel bad. *Torch is shamed* bobbajimmy There are five quorms of the Seventy. Two are General Authorities. The first quorms has around 40. The members serve until around the age of 70, which they step down, but still have the office of Seventy (emeritus). The second quorm has around 40, but the members serve for five and a half years. The other three quorms are Area Authorities. The three were organized by President Hinckely. Seventies are special witnesses of Chirst. They are above Elder, but below High Priest. funtoys oh... well i didn't know that... xzero.2 The things we should've learned by now. What else are we not knowing? Mina Mormon *is amazed and now educated* that's one of the things about being born into the church. you have to stop just saying "SMA" (standard mormon answers) and need to actually pay attention and really learn. the "SMA"s are really important, and we need to practice them! i like being born in the church cause it's a nice foundation and i don't have to struggle with changing my whole lifestyle or anything, but i love hearing conversion stories and so on, and "converts" have some of the strongest testimonies! *huggles everyone* *resolves to go upstairs and study the gosple some more* bobajimmy standard mormon answers You mean: Go to church, read your Scriptures and pray? funtoys yeah, those are about it... i may not have been in the church long, but i feel that even though you guys are more educated than me that i'm loved and i thank you guys for that. mina mormon]pretty much. go to church, read your scriptures, say your prayers, take the sacrament, the stuff that can answer pretty much every question but we (at least i) really need to think about more [/quote]
[quote="funtoys you arent the only one that has to think about them more... i think we all should.. not many people actually realize what happens during the sacrament... it just becomes so routine... i go up bless it sometimes helps deacons pass it and then life goes on... i need to think about it more. funtoys who me? well you brought it to my attention.. now i have to write it down before i forget... *writes it down* thanx airaphire i find it amazing that many people don't know how a prophet is call after the old one dies. funtoys it isn't that hard... i'm pretty sure i know... isn't it the next person in line.. like if GBH died then wouldn't Monson be the next prophet? glimare Well, technically the prophet is whoever God wants it to be. Look at Brigham Young for instance. He wasn't the first counceler to Joseph Smith, I don't even know if he was in the Twelve. All I know is that at the conference that took place right after Joseph's death, he spoke and he sounded Just like Joseph, with the authority of God and the spirit in hand. But logically, if God wants it to be Monson, He'll be the Prophet. Nothing we can really do about that(not like I'd want to either). funtoys hmmm... good point.. just like all other callings they are called of God. glimare Here's another disterbing fact. At the MTC a while ago, some people asked the missionaries what the aposticy is, and they didn't know. How disterbing.....@_@ funtoys what? how could they not know... it was when the gospel was removed from the earth... i know that that isn't the best way to answer it, but at that time the truth was construed and twisted to fit what people wanted. bobajimmy Of course he was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve! God places who he wants next to be Prophet in the 1st Councilors spot. Normally it goes by seniority, but then Elder Packer would be next in line, followed by President Fault. But it was told the President Monson and President Fault would move in front of Elder Packer for the spot, so the next Prophet will be President Monson. (I think it's Elder Packer, I am still learning my Apostles) Glimare I said I didn't know if he was in the twelve. All I did know is that he wasn't first councelor. fluffyturtle eek wow, this is probably the dumbest i've felt since i got to the math part of the PSAT sweatdrop torch24601 bobajimmy has made it his life's mission to humble me. bobajimmy I'll beat the pride right out of yeah! *fells she is not humble enough* *looks for stuff she should know* >_>
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