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Kind of obvious that I would vote against this since I'm the one who initially suggested we remove them. I understand your point; but I still think we're better off without the training of stat and skill points. And I am saying this probably as one of the people who has done the most of these if not the one who has done the most of it in this guild. Something's always felt a bit off about them...

You can't really interact while doing this, unlesss you really wanna spend three months on a single training, grading system changes from one place to the next and frustrates certain people, no one ever wants to review them, grading system is kind of arbitrary, etc.

I had thought about this issue though and I had had two ideas for the beta system to be implemented eventually once we had had a chance to discuss everything.

First was to have characters who level have a perk to choose from from a list (like in Fallout or other similar games), something that people who make a character from scratch would only have the benefit of from the moment they start levelling their characters. These perks could be various modest effects, such as an additional stat point to distribute this level, 5 additional skill points, 5% reduced chakra cost on a single jutsu, or things of the sort. I thought it would even be cool to have clan or contract specific perks eventually. But, given that we have more than enough work just launching this thing; I was going to bring this idea up for discussion later.

Second thing was about using the currency from the missions and loot to buy physical alterations, specialized traning and weapon improvements. This way characters who earn money through missions will have amassed these upgrades and have a significant advantage on scratch characters from their level.

I understand the frustration though since I just tried to see how Hiru would like with this new system; and it pretty muc cut all of his stats by half. Still, what I liked about it is that the lower stats would make any jutsu, technique or tactic more effective since it makes for a lot less jacked up stats if you want your character to be adapted for various situations, something I noticed while we were doing the test run in Iwa. Plus, I do believe having less people go on hiatus to go train alone and more involved in going out in the field and helping others as encounters will ultimately work in favor of keeping things interesting.

I suggest we keep arguing to a minimum here. People just vote and say why you voted as you did. Arguments have always been a plague in this guild and the primary source of our legendary bleeding of members... sweatdrop

We love you no matter what you vote!

I'm for the new system, but I disagree with having your higher level characters change over to Konoha with the new rules. I for one could do it without much fuss with Sakurayuki because frankly, it probably won't make that much of a difference, but I know how much hard work you've put into this all. I voted for it just to say I'd like to keep your characters intact. It's not fair to cut everything back, and I think newbies would understand as well.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind it if Leveling up got you like 4 stat points and 12 skill points, but freshly made characters got the base amount and 3x level for stat points and 10x level skill points so that leveling up still has meaning.

And I like Hiru's idea of being able to buy stat/skill upgrades since it would give Ryo meaning. Half the missions I have gone on forgot Ryo was even a thing.

+1 New system. Like Qyp, I HATED training.

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