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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:06 pm


With the exception of the 2 sections below. The clan will remain as written in this thread.

~Attributes ~


While the Hyuuga are generally known to have larger than normal chakra reserves, most likely as a result of the Byakugan, but that extra chakra is constantly eaten away. The strain causes their bodies to be weakened, which is why their primary fighting style focuses on speed rather than strength.

1.1x Dex
1.1x Chk
0.8x Con

~ Skills ~


The Hyyuga, because of the regular use of their Byakugan and the fact that they can see their chakra systems, have a much better grasp of the nature and flow of chakra and thus tend to master chakra control extremely fast. Their Kekkai Genkai allows them to see through solid objects, making their awareness nearly unmatched However, the fact that their chakra is naturally attuned to their inner body to feed their byakugan and taijutsu makes it harder for the to develop external ninjutsu or genjutsu skills.

1.3x Awareness
1.1x Chakra Control
0.8x Ninjutsu (Note: This is a required skill for learning clan jutsu)
0.8x Genjutsu
PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:10 pm


I've been thinking about this for a while with clans, don't you think it could be a good idea that, unless the stat modification are clearly the bloodline limit (for example Hoshigaki, Akimichi), that we leave the limit as being just the ability?

Also, for the Uchiha, my idea is to make Sharingan its separate skill, its effectiveness being therefore reliant on working to devellop it. This way when limits like Byakugan and Sharingan give bonuses without that many drawbacks other than some mild chakra cost, it would temper their effectiveness a bit.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:20 pm


Hoshigaki Hiru
I've been thinking about this for a while with clans, don't you think it could be a good idea that, unless the stat modification are clearly the bloodline limit (for example Hoshigaki, Akimichi), that we leave the limit as being just the ability?

Also, for the Uchiha, my idea is to make Sharingan its separate skill, its effectiveness being therefore reliant on working to devellop it. This way when limits like Byakugan and Sharingan give bonuses without that many drawbacks other than some mild chakra cost, it would temper their effectiveness a bit.


I.e. Leave the awareness bonus, ditch the rest?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:33 pm


PupSage
Hoshigaki Hiru
I've been thinking about this for a while with clans, don't you think it could be a good idea that, unless the stat modification are clearly the bloodline limit (for example Hoshigaki, Akimichi), that we leave the limit as being just the ability?

Also, for the Uchiha, my idea is to make Sharingan its separate skill, its effectiveness being therefore reliant on working to devellop it. This way when limits like Byakugan and Sharingan give bonuses without that many drawbacks other than some mild chakra cost, it would temper their effectiveness a bit.


I.e. Leave the awareness bonus, ditch the rest?


Actually, I'd make Byakugan a skill and make the awareness boost vary depending on the number of points invested in it. That's the most effective way I found so far to make the Sharingan even remotely balanced on my end.

Plus I do believe Hinata had worked on her skills with her Byakugan to increase the range she could see with it, making this kinda logical.

Is tracking Awareness or survival by the way?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:59 am


Hoshigaki Hiru
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Hoshigaki Hiru
I've been thinking about this for a while with clans, don't you think it could be a good idea that, unless the stat modification are clearly the bloodline limit (for example Hoshigaki, Akimichi), that we leave the limit as being just the ability?

Also, for the Uchiha, my idea is to make Sharingan its separate skill, its effectiveness being therefore reliant on working to devellop it. This way when limits like Byakugan and Sharingan give bonuses without that many drawbacks other than some mild chakra cost, it would temper their effectiveness a bit.


I.e. Leave the awareness bonus, ditch the rest?


Actually, I'd make Byakugan a skill and make the awareness boost vary depending on the number of points invested in it. That's the most effective way I found so far to make the Sharingan even remotely balanced on my end.

Plus I do believe Hinata had worked on her skills with her Byakugan to increase the range she could see with it, making this kinda logical.

Is tracking Awareness or survival by the way?


Survival if the person is not in visual range and you are looking for footprints/broken branches/ect. Awareness if they are close enough to be seen or heard.

That said ... what you are proposing sounds very similar to the psionics system. An individual skill tied to the limit that would create power points. These points can be spent to augment an existing skill, but are limited, usually by ranks in the skill and level. 1 per 4 levels and 1 per 5 ranks in the skill.

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So for example, a Hyuuga might have something like this:
Awareness:
1 PP: Add your chakra modifier to your awareness check
2 PP: As above, but also add your ranks in Byakugon


I'm not a bit fan of the idea. As it stands we force a clan to balance itself by forcing them to take away an equal amount from another skill. We have also been fairly good at policing these so that people that would never use charisma don't use it as a scapegoat to pass their clan.

I mean, look at Hyuuga, Ninjutsu is required for one of their best techniques and I gave it a x0.8. Genjutsu is required to get out of the academy and I made it so that they have to have 7 ranks just to learn genjutsu kai. What do they get in exchange? A slightly better Chakra control skill and an extremely high bonus to awareness. They still have to sink a lot of points and training into ninjutsu. Masaraku breezed through a B rank technique like it was nothing, this character can just barely make the ninjutsu requirements for some C ranked techniques.

If you are wanting to implement something like that, that needs a guild wide opinion, because that means we (currently translated you and I) have to remake EVERY clan in the guild, not just the Konoha ones.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:59 pm


Welll the whole guild as it stands kinda looks like three people... we can try both systems and see how it turns out in the field. Don't have alot of time for finesse right now... By the way no problem with how you've done the clan, I'd give them a bonus to tracking when using Byakugan though since the Hyuuga are apparently used as scouts because of their ability.

Think you could do the Yamanaka Clan while you're here? Noticed that even though the others aren't perfect they're all pretty much already up except for that one. I'll make a beginner zone and prepare a few basic missions that people can just pick up and do themselves as long as they find volunteers for various encounters.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:17 am


Hoshigaki Hiru
Welll the whole guild as it stands kinda looks like three people... we can try both systems and see how it turns out in the field. Don't have alot of time for finesse right now... By the way no problem with how you've done the clan, I'd give them a bonus to tracking when using Byakugan though since the Hyuuga are apparently used as scouts because of their ability.

Think you could do the Yamanaka Clan while you're here? Noticed that even though the others aren't perfect they're all pretty much already up except for that one. I'll make a beginner zone and prepare a few basic missions that people can just pick up and do themselves as long as they find volunteers for various encounters.


K, will do, can you unlock the original Hyuuga clan for me so that I can copy paste the pictures and formatting.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:58 am


PupSage
Hoshigaki Hiru
Welll the whole guild as it stands kinda looks like three people... we can try both systems and see how it turns out in the field. Don't have alot of time for finesse right now... By the way no problem with how you've done the clan, I'd give them a bonus to tracking when using Byakugan though since the Hyuuga are apparently used as scouts because of their ability.

Think you could do the Yamanaka Clan while you're here? Noticed that even though the others aren't perfect they're all pretty much already up except for that one. I'll make a beginner zone and prepare a few basic missions that people can just pick up and do themselves as long as they find volunteers for various encounters.


K, will do, can you unlock the original Hyuuga clan for me so that I can copy paste the pictures and formatting.


Done!

Hoshigaki Hiru
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