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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:14 pm
It was IRL. I wasn't active on online forums yet. Now when I think about it though, I start to think, "Why didn't I report him...oh yeah."
I can't see anything that'd be offensive from a third person point of view. From a choicer's point of view, though, I guess I can see it. But then, they don't really care when they offend us, so I don't see why we shouldn't return the favor.
They can call us that because we're wrong, so there, nye. Love the logic, eh?
I also love how they say, "Try and put yourself in a woman's position." What, did I suddenly grow an extra organ and loose my boobs? Are tons of women in this guild suddenly magically protected from getting pregnant even though they're sexually active?
And the whole implication that we're close-minded, when we're the ones making accomodations for them ALL the time. They can use biased sources, but we can't. They can use outdated sources, but we can't. They can use super-new studies, but we can't. We call them pro-choice instead of anti-life, but they call us anti-choice instead of pro-life. There's this whole pattern here of, "We're not doing anything WE don't want to do because WE don't care about other people and how they feel." When someone who's prolife gets offended, they say, "You shouldn't be," but when they get offended, suddenly the offender is an evil monster.
There are some who aren't like that. I can count on my fingers the number of people who actually make an effort, but they do exist.
Here's another one I don't get. I don't support bombing clinics because it's stooping to the level of killing someone for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and if I'm against unborn children dying why in the world would I support other people dying? But it's okay for them to talk about clinic bombers as being evil for killing people, yet it's not okay to say abortionists are evil for killing people because, "They're not really people." Way to be close-minded. Arguing to a bunch of people who feel that the unborn ARE people something based on the premise that the unborn don't matter is pretty much debate suicide.
Thankyou, if anyone wants something done, feel free to ask, my AIM and MSN thingies are on my status bar if PMs are too inconvenient.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:58 pm
*pats lyme on the back*
I know how you feel, but I mean it's the only way they can actually provide a decent argument. It's only fair that we have handicaps, otherwise it would be a slaughter.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:47 am
Quote: Worst I ever got was a guy who threatened to rape me until I got pregnant and then see how I feel. "Today on Jerry Springer: Who's my baby's daddeh?"
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:55 am
lymelady I also love how they say, "Try and put yourself in a woman's position." What, did I suddenly grow an extra organ and loose my boobs? Are tons of women in this guild suddenly magically protected from getting pregnant even though they're sexually active? And the whole implication that we're close-minded, when we're the ones making accomodations for them ALL the time. They can use biased sources, but we can't. They can use outdated sources, but we can't. They can use super-new studies, but we can't. We call them pro-choice instead of anti-life, but they call us anti-choice instead of pro-life. There's this whole pattern here of, "We're not doing anything WE don't want to do because WE don't care about other people and how they feel." When someone who's prolife gets offended, they say, "You shouldn't be," but when they get offended, suddenly the offender is an evil monster. 1- were i in a womans position, it wouldn't matter- i simply would not have sex until i was ready. just that simple. 2- that is kind of the nature of their stance- "we do whatever we want, ******** everyone and everything else, our pleasure and happiness outwieghs the lives of others." edit- it kinda reminds me of one of those stereotypical hick farmers running out on his porch with a shotgun, firing blindly and yelling " GET OFFA MUH PROPERTAY!"
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:17 pm
A Random Pro-Choicer I know that if I somehow got pregnant (be it by anything from a rip in a condom to rape) I would want to abort it. I don't like babies, and though I know I could give it up for adoption, I'd rather just get rid of it. . This sounds like a person who should just have their tubes tied. Why not? She said herself that she doesn't like babies, therefore why even risk the chance of becomming pregnant?
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:46 pm
kasumi_ocada A Random Pro-Choicer I know that if I somehow got pregnant (be it by anything from a rip in a condom to rape) I would want to abort it. I don't like babies, and though I know I could give it up for adoption, I'd rather just get rid of it. . This sounds like a person who should just have their tubes tied. Why not? She said herself that she doesn't like babies, therefore why even risk the chance of becomming pregnant? Because it's more fun to kill for sex?
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:01 pm
That's why I had debating with them they were way worse then me and they reported me for the stupidest things so I just reported them back.
They don't make sense, they don't have common sense or listen to reason, they basically call the dictionary and my medical one lies cause they don't what to believe in the truth,they have crappy analogoy and say my was bad? There'res don't make sense and have nothing to do with abortion. They try use a car crash victim compared to a fetus being aborted. Car crash don't justifiy it and too different things. Most (exspecially this one girl you shall be nameless) is really mean,rude,crual, and spitful. But somethings i'll go over there and mess with them cause basically that debate is a joke, not even a debate. Debate is based on both opinons and facts on both sides and they don't even get the basic fact (well most of them don't) and they said they worked at the hospital, yah right rolleyes
Their really just plain selfish and care about noone but themselfs but call use selfish cause they don't want to admit the truth.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:05 pm
that is pro-choice, in a nutshell... they want everything but want to give nothing back, and would kill to avoid the inconveneince of doing so
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:56 pm
divineseraph that is pro-choice, in a nutshell... they want everything but want to give nothing back, and would kill to avoid the inconveneince of doing so I think that is so wrong but in the end I don't think people like that would do good in the real world or be trully happy in life.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:04 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:17 pm
Ohhhhhh, has she got her info wrong. Its a human. Fetus is a term of biologicle age, not being. And yes, many many many humans of 8 weeks of implantation are torn apart during the process.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:38 pm
sachiko_sohma divineseraph that is pro-choice, in a nutshell... they want everything but want to give nothing back, and would kill to avoid the inconveneince of doing so I think that is so wrong but in the end I don't think people like that would do good in the real world or be trully happy in life. they like to pretend they don't need to follow the rules, but it eats away at them. unless they happen to be sociopaths, then nothing phases them, they could kill an oh-so-preciously-different born person with no feelings either way. anyway, i used a math-type forumla to figure out that a fetus is a human being... person- a living* human human being- a human human- a member of the species homo sapiens *living- possessing life life-The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism. (feti do all of the above, except react to their environment conciously. then again, trees don't do that either, but they are still alive...plus it says OR, not all of them must apply) a fetus is, by definition, both a person and a human being. please, shove that in the face of any and all choicers who would like to tell you otherwise. i'm sure it's been said quite a few times, but here it is, compiled again for you
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