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 Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:23 am
Calelith
Just because certain groups refer to Satan/Ha-Satan as Lucifer doesn't mean they're right or correct.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Did you read all of it? People can call the devil "Lucifer" in the same way Isaiah calls the Babylonian King Lucifer. Is he actually the morning star? No.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:24 am
real eyes realize Calelith
Just because certain groups refer to Satan/Ha-Satan as Lucifer doesn't mean they're right or correct.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Did you read all of it? People can call the devil "Lucifer" in the same way Isaiah calls the Babylonian King Lucifer. Is he actually the morning star? No.
I did, why do you think I said what I said?
confused
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:25 am
Well, if you want the Hebrew translation of "Satan" it means, Accuser/Opposer. So it still fits into the acts and title given in the Bible.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:28 am
Hamul Well, if you want the Hebrew translation of "Satan" it means, Accuser/Opposer. So it still fits into the acts and title given in the Bible.
Lucifer still isn't a title given to Satan.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:30 am
Haha, then we agree. smile
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:57 am
AmeixaNeko Michael Noire the king james bible was changed by the illuminati, but king james predates the illuminati by over a century. now the modern bibles you see are largely byproducts of modern illuminati members pushing their one world agenda. I see that with a lot of the newer versions of the Bible. They have errors, or verses that are taken out, and verses that were not originally included in the older versions. These newer bible translations are sometimes misleading. What do you think of versions older than KJV (1600's), like Douay-Rheims (1500's) or John Wycliff (1300's)Bibles? Well, this is what I discovered. The KJV was written because of the witch trials in England. The Malleus Maleficarum, or Witches Hammer was being reviewed by James of Scotland at the time, and he came to conclude the rituals and instructions for exorcism didn't work, probably because his men tried them. He concluded something was fundamentally wrong with the Catholic interpretation of dealing with witches, and wrote the book of Daemonologie. The conclusions he drew in his article led him to do a large amount of research into the bible, and so he had a bunch of scholars retranslate the bible. One of the things I learned in Catholic school was some bibles had 9 commandments and some had 10. The ones with 9 commandments split one of the ten commands into two lines, and then erased the extra. In many modern bibles, the Garden of Gesthemane is taken out. Most Christians don't even know what Gesthemane was about or why it happened, and collapse that event into the Crucifixion. That would be akin to saying MacArthur defeated Hitler while he was sailing to Japan.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:17 pm
The Bible has been changed countless times over the centuries by hundreds of different people (some may have been in the illuminati)
This is why the Gospels contradict each other dozens of times over
Ask yourself this : who wrote the book of Samuel? or Ezra? or Isaiah? or Jeremiah?
These are all anonymous people who we don't know, and never will know
A serial killer or rapist could have written one of those books for all we know
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:16 pm
Khalid Ibn Walid The Bible has been changed countless times over the centuries by hundreds of different people (some may have been in the illuminati)
This is why the Gospels contradict each other dozens of times over
Ask yourself this : who wrote the book of Samuel? or Ezra? or Isaiah? or Jeremiah?
These are all anonymous people who we don't know, and never will know
A serial killer or rapist could have written one of those books for all we know If we are to believe the text, it was written by the prophets themselves in a scroll or carved into a tablet: examples: Quote: Jeremiah 30:1-2 (NIV) 1 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Write in a book all the words I have spoken to you. Quote: Isaiah 30:8 (NIV) 8 Go now, write it on a tablet for them, inscribe it on a scroll, that for the days to come it may be an everlasting witness. Quote: Habakkuk 2:2 (NIV) 2 Then the Lord replied: “Write down the revelation and make it plain on tablets so that a herald[a] may run with it. Footnotes: Habakkuk 2:2 Or so that whoever reads itWhat is easier to change: an ancient document dating thousands of years back (which we still have preserved and on display)? or "word of mouth recitation" that had never been written, just passed down orally?
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:55 pm
Khalid Ibn Walid The Bible has been changed countless times over the centuries by hundreds of different people (some may have been in the illuminati)
This is why the Gospels contradict each other dozens of times over It doesn't really contradict if it's read, and understood properly. It's a work of art. The Bible is full of metaphors and parables. The Illuminati wasn't established until 1776, and freemasonry somewhere around the 16th century. So it is possible that some tampering may have happened somewhere; though, the Bible is so anti-Illuminati, which is why it's hard to believe that they would've had any part in changing it. Quote: Ask yourself this : who wrote the book of Samuel? or Ezra? or Isaiah? or Jeremiah? These are all anonymous people who we don't know, and never will know A serial killer or rapist could have written one of those books for all we know No rapists or serial killers. Samuel? (Unknown, possibly Nathan the Prophet and Gad the Seer)Ezra? Lived 480–440 BC (Ezra the Priest/Scribe wrote The Book of Ezra, Nehemiah, and 1st & 2nd Chronicles)Isaiah? Lived 8th-7th Century BC (Isaiah the Prophet wrote The Book of Isaiah)Jeremiah? Lived 655--586 BC (Jeremiah the Prophet wrote The Book of Jeremiah, Lamentations, and 1st & 2nd Kings; he sometimes dictated to his scribe Baruch). All of these men took writing God's word seriously, as most of them got direct word from God. (The people who've handled and modified the Bible's manuscripts after the original scribes, prophets, 12 disciples, kings, and apostles are questionable.)
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:47 am
Calelith Hamul Well, if you want the Hebrew translation of "Satan" it means, Accuser/Opposer. So it still fits into the acts and title given in the Bible.
Lucifer still isn't a title given to Satan.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Oh, and when I agree. I mean Satan isn't given the title of the High Throne or the Morning Star Jesus is given. He is simply casted down, as he tried so desperately to sit on it. At the moment he's gathering men from the four winds(4 major regions) to form a battle line before Jesus' Heavenly Army. We live in an age of Deception so take everything and prove it for oneself. Test the spirit God said.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:17 pm
Quote: Many times my mother would take me on trips to several museums in Israel and I fell in love with archeology. I was fascinated with it. In my many arguments with her, I would bluntly tell her that the Jews and Christians had corrupted the Bible. She responded by taking me to the Scroll Museum in Jerusalem and showed me the scroll of Isaiah, still intact. There was no one taking pictures of any Biblical errors to prove of any corruption and I could not respond to my mother. - WalidThe Dead Sea Scrolls confirm the Bible had not been changed, however a little editing did occur. Just maybe less than you'd expect.
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