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 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:23 am
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Gjornia X Quote: also manay minority groups get special treatment. there are quite a few scholarships for people just because their skin is a bit more brown Not to get it twisted, that "special treatment" is basic equality. There were no colleges accepting those belonging to minority groups and the few that did were not exactly welcoming them with open arms. There was much antagonism in American society against any non-caucasian, non-protestant person. And this "special treatment" wasn't given, it was taken. Black churches established themselves as schools for higher learning for those of African decent. There are plenty of Rabbinical schools as wells that opened for Jews (though they were accepting to anyone since it would help dispel the ethnically insensitive myths and stereotypes rampant in the media about them). Let's be honest, it wasn't the white christians who improved the lives of these people, it was the people themselves. i probably could have worded that a bit differently, but the point still stand. every race, every gender, and pretty much nearly every group of people gets special treatment one way or another. i just dont view it as that bit of a deal besides, if we have more of these days, months or whatever that are for lgb community stuff then maybe i can stop seeing so many signs saying god hates fags Every group that has been wronged by a majority in the past seems to get some special privileged benefits relating to whatever the most damage was in. For Native Americans, our main concern was mostly medical. We had our tribal knowledge and we were content with that, but our health suffered. Now Native Americans who can prove their heritage can get free healthcare if they know where to go. Our homes were also lost, now we have reservations upon which we can live and in some cases we'll even be paid just to be there. Personally, I think it's a good thing. It seems less like a racist problem and more like the majority basically saying "We did this, this was wrong, so here is how we're going to try to make it better." Yes, in many cases those that had their liberties attacked stood up and brought about change for themselves, but the majority had to choose to accept that and help it become widespread. If the minorities had been solely and only responsible for their improvements then we would only see those improvements in places where minorities exist, but these benefits have become federal for the most part and cover every state. to be perfectly honest i know next to nothing about native americans and what they are doing now or what their current sufferings are. as far as i know we dont have much of a native population here. nearly everyone here is part native american but not enough to qualify for any benefits or enough to know any of their traditions. we learned a little about native americans when we were in first grade while learning about jamestown since we are right in that area but thats it
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:18 am
Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Gjornia X Quote: also manay minority groups get special treatment. there are quite a few scholarships for people just because their skin is a bit more brown Not to get it twisted, that "special treatment" is basic equality. There were no colleges accepting those belonging to minority groups and the few that did were not exactly welcoming them with open arms. There was much antagonism in American society against any non-caucasian, non-protestant person. And this "special treatment" wasn't given, it was taken. Black churches established themselves as schools for higher learning for those of African decent. There are plenty of Rabbinical schools as wells that opened for Jews (though they were accepting to anyone since it would help dispel the ethnically insensitive myths and stereotypes rampant in the media about them). Let's be honest, it wasn't the white christians who improved the lives of these people, it was the people themselves. i probably could have worded that a bit differently, but the point still stand. every race, every gender, and pretty much nearly every group of people gets special treatment one way or another. i just dont view it as that bit of a deal besides, if we have more of these days, months or whatever that are for lgb community stuff then maybe i can stop seeing so many signs saying god hates fags Every group that has been wronged by a majority in the past seems to get some special privileged benefits relating to whatever the most damage was in. For Native Americans, our main concern was mostly medical. We had our tribal knowledge and we were content with that, but our health suffered. Now Native Americans who can prove their heritage can get free healthcare if they know where to go. Our homes were also lost, now we have reservations upon which we can live and in some cases we'll even be paid just to be there. Personally, I think it's a good thing. It seems less like a racist problem and more like the majority basically saying "We did this, this was wrong, so here is how we're going to try to make it better." Yes, in many cases those that had their liberties attacked stood up and brought about change for themselves, but the majority had to choose to accept that and help it become widespread. If the minorities had been solely and only responsible for their improvements then we would only see those improvements in places where minorities exist, but these benefits have become federal for the most part and cover every state. to be perfectly honest i know next to nothing about native americans and what they are doing now or what their current sufferings are. as far as i know we dont have much of a native population here. nearly everyone here is part native american but not enough to qualify for any benefits or enough to know any of their traditions. we learned a little about native americans when we were in first grade while learning about jamestown since we are right in that area but thats it Most Native American organizations that I've seen actually don't care about your percent. I suggest you see if you can prove any Native American relation (blood test is usually efficient) and if you have enough to prove it then you can qualify for benefits. You may not get much if there isn't much around, such as reservation or medical care, but you should qualify for a grant for college if your tribe supports that. Not all tribes do and I forgot that up until I was typing this. Edit: After proving it you should get a card that proves your heritage and you can use that elsewhere. If you travel and find a place that offers free med care to Natives, you can take advantage of that using your card. Same for some reservations. The biggest problem might be tribal separations, not all tribes have lowered their tribal barriers yet. I think that's a work in progress though.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:43 am
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Gjornia X Quote: also manay minority groups get special treatment. there are quite a few scholarships for people just because their skin is a bit more brown Not to get it twisted, that "special treatment" is basic equality. There were no colleges accepting those belonging to minority groups and the few that did were not exactly welcoming them with open arms. There was much antagonism in American society against any non-caucasian, non-protestant person. And this "special treatment" wasn't given, it was taken. Black churches established themselves as schools for higher learning for those of African decent. There are plenty of Rabbinical schools as wells that opened for Jews (though they were accepting to anyone since it would help dispel the ethnically insensitive myths and stereotypes rampant in the media about them). Let's be honest, it wasn't the white christians who improved the lives of these people, it was the people themselves. i probably could have worded that a bit differently, but the point still stand. every race, every gender, and pretty much nearly every group of people gets special treatment one way or another. i just dont view it as that bit of a deal besides, if we have more of these days, months or whatever that are for lgb community stuff then maybe i can stop seeing so many signs saying god hates fags Every group that has been wronged by a majority in the past seems to get some special privileged benefits relating to whatever the most damage was in. For Native Americans, our main concern was mostly medical. We had our tribal knowledge and we were content with that, but our health suffered. Now Native Americans who can prove their heritage can get free healthcare if they know where to go. Our homes were also lost, now we have reservations upon which we can live and in some cases we'll even be paid just to be there. Personally, I think it's a good thing. It seems less like a racist problem and more like the majority basically saying "We did this, this was wrong, so here is how we're going to try to make it better." Yes, in many cases those that had their liberties attacked stood up and brought about change for themselves, but the majority had to choose to accept that and help it become widespread. If the minorities had been solely and only responsible for their improvements then we would only see those improvements in places where minorities exist, but these benefits have become federal for the most part and cover every state. to be perfectly honest i know next to nothing about native americans and what they are doing now or what their current sufferings are. as far as i know we dont have much of a native population here. nearly everyone here is part native american but not enough to qualify for any benefits or enough to know any of their traditions. we learned a little about native americans when we were in first grade while learning about jamestown since we are right in that area but thats it Most Native American organizations that I've seen actually don't care about your percent. I suggest you see if you can prove any Native American relation (blood test is usually efficient) and if you have enough to prove it then you can qualify for benefits. You may not get much if there isn't much around, such as reservation or medical care, but you should qualify for a grant for college if your tribe supports that. Not all tribes do and I forgot that up until I was typing this. Edit: After proving it you should get a card that proves your heritage and you can use that elsewhere. If you travel and find a place that offers free med care to Natives, you can take advantage of that using your card. Same for some reservations. The biggest problem might be tribal separations, not all tribes have lowered their tribal barriers yet. I think that's a work in progress though. ill mention that to a few of my friends. i have no native american in me as far as i know. from what i understand my entire american stide of the family has always been white, and my mother was the first of her family to come to the states from england so i doubt there is any on her side
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:25 pm
The more I learn, the less anything makes since... I am just going to shut up now....
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:49 pm
Shanna66 Gjornia X Quote: also manay minority groups get special treatment. there are quite a few scholarships for people just because their skin is a bit more brown Not to get it twisted, that "special treatment" is basic equality. There were no colleges accepting those belonging to minority groups and the few that did were not exactly welcoming them with open arms. There was much antagonism in American society against any non-caucasian, non-protestant person. And this "special treatment" wasn't given, it was taken. Black churches established themselves as schools for higher learning for those of African decent. There are plenty of Rabbinical schools as wells that opened for Jews (though they were accepting to anyone since it would help dispel the ethnically insensitive myths and stereotypes rampant in the media about them). Let's be honest, it wasn't the white christians who improved the lives of these people, it was the people themselves. i probably could have worded that a bit differently, but the point still stand. every race, every gender, and pretty much nearly every group of people gets special treatment one way or another. i just dont view it as that bit of a deal besides, if we have more of these days, months or whatever that are for lgb community stuff then maybe i can stop seeing so many signs saying god hates fags The hearts of picketers like that are filled with so much anger. It's sad because their hatred is misdirected (towards the sinner and not the sin) and then that image gets painted across all Christian peoples. It makes no sense. Where is the salt and light in what they do? That's what I would ask them.
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