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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:31 pm
Wisteria Darling Agh I couldn't stand that not-touching thing.. I felt SO frustrated when I watched shows like Ainori or KissIya or anything else that showcased dating or couples.... because there was a TOTAL lack of affection that it was just eerie! I liked to watch shows where people would confess to "uwaki", or cheating (it happened a lot on KissIya and there was an even funner show called The Triangle). I just couldn't get over how innocent both the men and women were about their cheating experience. So much so I had to ask a Japanese person.. when a Japanese says "uwaki" do they really mean cheating SEXUALLY???? Because, really, I just couldn't accept they had done anything more than kissing or dating, since they all acted so child-like and non-emotional. But yes, "uwaki" does mean sexually cheating. eek They keep things so hush-hush it's incredible sometimes. xd oh... I was all ready to say that I was expectant of them taking "uwaki" as not necessarily denoting a cheating relationship... I mean c'mon, as shy and uptight as Japanese couples come off wouldn't it be typical that they'd feel guilty about even accidently glancing in the same general direction as another woman... They come off as just so moraled and honorable, and just so innocent and shy that they might even go as far as to label saying "hi" to someone of the opposite sex as an attempt to cheat on their gf/bf... In that case being an item with someone would make life really suck if that was the reality of it all... xp
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:07 pm
Wisteria Darling Wow that's nice to hear you broke out of your shy shell. I'm still in mine, and I'm so fed up with it. I blush at the drop of a hat, even when I'm not embarrassed at anything, and then people tease me for it, hence I really do get embarrassed. confused How is the PDA department with your guy? After hearing from some of my friends with Japanese husbands or boyfriends, I felt quite lucky.. one of my friends, her husband won't even let her hold his hand in public. The most he does is allow her to loop her arm through his! He is that shy! I would just die if I had to put up with that. eek But the Westernized Japanese were way more affectionate.. Well, I think I can understand why couples (at least the ones from the examples in this thread) are so... less caring in public. The most me and my guy do in public is hold hands and talk, but that's mostly because he's not comfortable doing anything else in public. He says that things like hugging and kissing should be done somewhere private where it's only us two. He thinks it's more respectful for me, and to be honest I don't care about that. But I have seen when we are out, people who are hugging each other, and the older people will shake their heads, so I think it also comes from the culture itself that things like that are considered intimate...
But I can't complain, because when we are alone he does loosen up alot, and because we can't see other couples when they are alone we can't exactly say that they act like they do in public. Maybe Japanese couples are like this because deep down the Japanese are silly prunes. LOL.
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:37 pm
mitsuki_shi Wisteria Darling Wow that's nice to hear you broke out of your shy shell. I'm still in mine, and I'm so fed up with it. I blush at the drop of a hat, even when I'm not embarrassed at anything, and then people tease me for it, hence I really do get embarrassed. confused How is the PDA department with your guy? After hearing from some of my friends with Japanese husbands or boyfriends, I felt quite lucky.. one of my friends, her husband won't even let her hold his hand in public. The most he does is allow her to loop her arm through his! He is that shy! I would just die if I had to put up with that. eek But the Westernized Japanese were way more affectionate.. Well, I think I can understand why couples (at least the ones from the examples in this thread) are so... less caring in public. The most me and my guy do in public is hold hands and talk, but that's mostly because he's not comfortable doing anything else in public. He says that things like hugging and kissing should be done somewhere private where it's only us two. He thinks it's more respectful for me, and to be honest I don't care about that. But I have seen when we are out, people who are hugging each other, and the older people will shake their heads, so I think it also comes from the culture itself that things like that are considered intimate...
But I can't complain, because when we are alone he does loosen up alot, and because we can't see other couples when they are alone we can't exactly say that they act like they do in public. Maybe Japanese couples are like this because deep down the Japanese are silly prunes. LOL.I have heard this happening in Japan... sort of an "unwritten law" if you will...^_^; Apparently Japanese couples abide by invisible law by showing any kind of affection toward each other whatsoever while in public... I guess it comes off as disrespectful or something of the sort... Spectators just don't like seeing others do it I guess while they have no one to do the same with... o_O
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:39 pm
I remember on an Ainori episode (for those who don't know, Ainori is a popular half-hour show that works much like MTV's Road Rules but of course NO sex and much less drama.. a group of young singles travel in a trademark pink van all over the world, and the goal is to eventually hook up with someone and go back to Japan.. or confess your love, get shot down, and then go back to Japan.. but a lot of couples from that show get married, which is nice) when they were in the Ukraine. Now if you have ever seen Eastern European women.. well, OMG they are the hottest things on the planet. eek Well, the Ainori group are out sightseeing in the city, and sometimes the camera will pan around the scenery and people.
As we all know Europeans are much more affectionate in public.. and they showed a young couple kissing and hugging each other while sitting outside. The hosts of the show who watch the video along with the audience started groaning like "Ahhhh OMG no waaaaaaay!" confused When it looked perfectly normal to me.
It's kinda sad to know that something like that will knock the socks off most Japanese, whatever age they are. sad
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:01 pm
Wisteria Darling I remember on an Ainori episode (for those who don't know, Ainori is a popular half-hour show that works much like MTV's Road Rules but of course NO sex and much less drama.. a group of young singles travel in a trademark pink van all over the world, and the goal is to eventually hook up with someone and go back to Japan.. or confess your love, get shot down, and then go back to Japan.. but a lot of couples from that show get married, which is nice) when they were in the Ukraine. Now if you have ever seen Eastern European women.. well, OMG they are the hottest things on the planet. eek Well, the Ainori group are out sightseeing in the city, and sometimes the camera will pan around the scenery and people. As we all know Europeans are much more affectionate in public.. and they showed a young couple kissing and hugging each other while sitting outside. The hosts of the show who watch the video along with the audience started groaning like "Ahhhh OMG no waaaaaaay!" confused When it looked perfectly normal to me. It's kinda sad to know that something like that will knock the socks off most Japanese, whatever age they are. sad -_-; It really is... They are just so uptight they can't even begin to understand how far more affectionate they really can be, and that sucks...
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:18 pm
Heh heh.. no, not really. My current crush is planning on majoring in Japanese at college but he's American.
My Japanese teacher (in my high school) has a Japanese wife. We all find it funny that he had originally gone to college as a history major, took up Japanese, moved there to teach English, and got married.
Sensei said that when he first moved here with his wife, she knew nothing of the American culture, but because he was so involved in the Japanese culture, both of their ideas and upbringings came together to create what he likes to call his own clan (though, it leans so heavily on the Japanese side that we like to call his house Niboribetsu).
So, in their case, there was really no clash... Sensei was completely openminded and his wife (being Japanese) just wanted to please her husband.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:43 am
Freakezette Wisteria Darling How is the PDA department with your guy? After hearing from some of my friends with Japanese husbands or boyfriends, I felt quite lucky.. one of my friends, her husband won't even let her hold his hand in public. The most he does is allow her to loop her arm through his! He is that shy! I would just die if I had to put up with that. eek My experience with Japanese couples is limited, but I do have to say the lack of any kind of PDA's is very apparent. One girl I know, Tomoe, she has a Japanese boyfriend that lives here and I see them together a lot, but I don't think a passer byer would be able to tell if they were a couple or brother and sister. No touching at all, barely any talking between the two, they'll stand next to each other and be facing away talking to other people. Then there's Haruo, the babe I mentioned before, I was at a study session with him and a really pretty Japanese girl was sitting next to him, but they heardly looked at each other. I thought she was a new exchange student. So she leaves, I said "Bye . . . um," then whisper to one of my classmates, "Who is she again?" And my classmate said that was Haruo's girlfriend. It's weird because he had mentioned her a lot in the past few months, then when they're together there's nothing. Some of the Japanese people who have been here for a long time dare to be more affectionate, and the one's in relationships with non-Japanese people take it as a opportunity to be affectionate in public. So interesting . . . I don't think I could handle a boyfirend who never touched me or held my hand in public. I think it kindaf depends on the japanese person themselves, right? When I was living in a college dorm last year, there had been two japanese girls living with us. One was more of your typical Japanese and the other was verily americanized. The americanized one drank at parties like no-one's business, flirts like a typical party girl, got a boyfriend, kissed in public, had sexually intimate relationship that was so obvious. And she was only here for a 1 semester exchange. She kindaf made me go "o_o" when I saw her behavior.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:12 am
Japanese girls, from a guy's perspective are shy at the first, and... well i never got past the pickup line... i gotta say that relationships are harder than it looks... but from experience, they don't really like having their pictures taken... but i haven't been in japan long enough to really have a relationship, and never in one place to even consider that idea... but outside japan, they still act the same way...
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:47 am
i have once, but that was a while ago
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:34 pm
Well in Italy I saw a lot of Japanese people, i could tell becuase they would greet each other with Ohayou or Konnichiwa. I saw a few couples and alot of girls like maybe 16-18 and old people bus load of old people. I couldn't really talk to them I never really had time. My friend kept telling me to talk to them but I was kind of nervous that i would mess up sweatdrop
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