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Mister Banter
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:11 pm


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=22580203&page=106

He may delete the posts, so I'll copy/paste while I can.

I originally posted something as Moroseth to call him out on his shenanigans, basically saying that he was only inviting people because they have a pulse and posted in an active TOPG thread, not because they're "high-tiered" or whatever the ******** he said.

his reply:
Teshinji
I apologize if that is what you think, but you're mistaken. I would not do that, and again I apologize if that is what you think, but it is not true. Thread wise, if there are things that I see and like, I will reinvent, or use, the idea, sure. But that is human nature. Please put down your hostility, but I would not do that, and I am sorely hurt that you would accuse me of doing that.


Then Moroseth:

Moroseth

Over the last few months I've noticed you've taken several threads from TOPG.

According to TOPG Crew, they've also received several notices from several members who are TOPG-faithful that you have sent them invites. This wouldn't normally be an issue, except for the sheer number of people telling them you sent them invites to your guild. To the point that it looks like mass farming of TOPG's forums of anybody who posts there.

I don't think they particularly like it either.


his reply:

Tetshinji
Again, I'm sorry if that's what you think, but it merely isn't the case. Though, if you continue going on about this, I can't help but appeal to more drastic measures. Once again though, I apologize for what you seem to look at as "member farming," but that simply isn't the case. Now, what I might look at is, The Official Pokemon Guild of Gaia has a mass number of Members, no??? Due to that specific fact, it is not coincidence that I happen to invite Members belonging there, it is that the mass number of Members there fall upon the invitations I send out, not from TOPG, but from another location I see them in.
And no, I do not send these invitations out because my "Guild is dying." I like a small community, but it still is nice having other people here. We get a good amount of posts for the number of Members we have, and you cannot merely use that against us as our "Guild is dying."
Please, take your pardons and leave us be. It is absolutely not what you are making it out to be, and I sincerely apologize that you think it is, but it simply is not.


Then me posting:

Mister Banter

Alright, considering this is important enough to PM me about I guess I"ll ******** post here.

Moro, let me handle this. You aren't helping.

Tets, Moroseth has 100% valid points. From what we've been hearing from people, you've been inviting left and right from TOPG. On top of this, you have several threads from TOPG in your forums. It's fine that you want your guild to be successful. But find your own formula for success that DOESNT involve being TOPG's little twin brother. Otherwise your guild will continue just being a shadow compared to TOPG.

On the subject of you inviting our members to your guild, that's NOT okay. Try some other method like signature banners for your guild, advertising your guild, advertising guild events in the Pokemon subforum, etc. I will NOT tolerate you taking any more members from TOPG. Especially since on their first day of activity in awhile, you're ALREADY sinking your claws into Karan and Liger after they posted in the Top 8 thread. There's no other way to explain it; you're blatantly trying to steal members whenever you can from the way this looks.

You were being considered for Crew by me originally. However in light of the last months where we got several reports that you had been stealing threads and inviting members, it was clearly a bad idea to give you access to the ideas and threads that are posted in the Crew Lounge and in the Crew-only subforum for our League.

I'm not risking you taking any more of our threads, members, or ideas. If this continues, there will be more problems.


And then I continue:

Mister Banter

The fact that we have a lot of members isn't good enough as an excuse.

Again, we have reports and PMs from members saying you invited them, and in EACH case it lines up almost perfectly with them posting for the first time in awhile in TOPG (Most recent case being Karan and Liger, whom I'm seeing this trend CONTINUE with my own eyes)

You're scouting TOPG for active members. There's no denying it. I'd like it to stop.


His reply to first post:

Tets
But key is, none of this "stealing members" is the case. In all honesty, hand on the Bible, I can say I have not gone and purposely "stolen" members from you. Once again, I apologize if this is the case found evident, but in reality, it is not, and again, I apologize for what you see to be happening. Once again, my point, your Guild has mass amounts of Members, and is it wrong that I find a Member of your Guild outside of your Guild, and invite them??? In all honesty I do not believe so. I pledge you, that is mere coincidence, and if you are truly taken offense by said coincidence, I sincerely apologize, but that is all I have the power to do. Unless you wish me to stop inviting Members to my Guild, I cannot merely stop happening to invite Members who belong in your Guild. You must see that you, as being the largest Pokemon Guild on Gaia, that you have that many Members.
On the subject of my shadowing The Official Pokemon Guild of Gaia, once again, I apologize for your seeing this. I will admit to you what I can say, will say, and may say, is the truth. I have seen some threads in your Guild that catch my eye, and in all reasonability, I reinvent or use the idea. But once again, that is in fact human nature. I'm positive in your being, you have done so as well.
If you do believe that this is the case, fine then, and once again, I apologize. I never meant any harm to be done between us and any other Guild, but it mistakedly happened today, whether you believe my case or not. I apologize, and for no further issue, if you wish to respond again, please do so via Private Message, for I cannot leave my Guild with such discriminant posts within her.


And his reply to second post:

Tets
Well, I apologize if that is how you see it, but it merely is the truth. There may be one or two Members here and there that I see that I find might be a nice addition here and, or, might like it here. From the otherwise being, that is I all that I can say towards your case of my scouting your Members, and I cannot say anything more, as there is nothing more to say. And I'm sorry to say so, but I must have you take your pardons and leave. If the conversation wants to be continued, do so via Private Message. Again, I cannot leave this discrimination towards my Guild within her. It personally disgusts myself and my Crew.


And my final reply:

Mister Banter

The other VCs of TOPG have been disgusted with the growing trend of you scouting members from the beginning of our Tournament. They've wanted to confront you many times, but I've always sided against it.

Now that a member has called it out in the open though, I needed to let you know how we feel about it.

"Stealing" was a broad term. Scouting is a much more appropriate term, yes. But it needs to stop. We don't look kindly on active members of TOPG (or returning members who are beginning their activity once again) being scouted and recruited to another guild for obvious reasons. I'd recommend you promote your events more widely through the Pokemon subforum and perhaps even throw an event on scale with our tournament to gain activity.

With a little luck, your guild will be just as fruitful as TOPG. But for now, I'm just letting you know: we've noticed and don't like what you've been doing.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:12 pm


So he basically admitted to scouting our members and trying to have them as rgulars in his guild instead, as well as taking our threads.

What should we do?

You all have my permission to troll the everlasting ******** out of him and his guild if you want. Please. Do it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:36 pm


scouting TOPG is the only way he could have found me, i haven't posted out side the guilds in months, other then a few in the gd, and the only other pokemon guild i was in has been integrated to the TOPG and i hardly even posted there.

i dont mind being scouted but not to a cheap rip off.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:54 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:22 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:28 pm


Oh dear.

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