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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:00 am


Job 40: 15-24, the NIV translates "behemoth" as hippo, but my friend strongly believed it was talking about a dinosaur. What do you guys think? I think it would be awesome if it WAS a dinosaur!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:15 pm


arika-toteshi-ka
Job 40: 15-24, the NIV translates "behemoth" as hippo, but my friend strongly believed it was talking about a dinosaur. What do you guys think? I think it would be awesome if it WAS a dinosaur!!!
Actually, it doesn't just describes it as "behemoth", but they are described as dragons. Not the kind we know in the fairy tales like the unicorn. If you read a little further in the book of Job, or anywhere in the Old Testament, it describes the "dragons" a bit similar to dinosaurs. In fact, we should already know the similarities to dragons and dinosaurs. After all, they are both described as giant lizards. You might be wondering, "what about the wings?" Just look at the Taradactile (sp?). This is all from what I know as of right now and need to do some more research about it, but if you want more information, watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5JZI00ISvY

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:10 pm


You guys do realize that the Bible was not written to be a science text right?

Just a little glance at a geological timetable will tell you that dinosaurs weren't around when the Bible was being written. Whatever the beasts referred to as dragons or behemoths were, it wasn't dinosaurs. Not saying that these beasts aren't real, just that its not dinosaurs.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:56 am


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arika-toteshi-ka
Job 40: 15-24, the NIV translates "behemoth" as hippo, but my friend strongly believed it was talking about a dinosaur. What do you guys think? I think it would be awesome if it WAS a dinosaur!!!
Actually, it doesn't just describes it as "behemoth", but they are described as dragons. Not the kind we know in the fairy tales like the unicorn. If you read a little further in the book of Job, or anywhere in the Old Testament, it describes the "dragons" a bit similar to dinosaurs. In fact, we should already know the similarities to dragons and dinosaurs. After all, they are both described as giant lizards. You might be wondering, "what about the wings?" Just look at the Taradactile (sp?). This is all from what I know as of right now and need to do some more research about it, but if you want more information, watch this video.
]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5JZI00ISvY

That was a good vid! I wonder what it would have been like to live with giant lizards. Like if they were dangerous or safe enough to ride. If they ate people or not. And if they were as big as we think dinosaurs were, you know?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:05 am


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Geologic_Clock_with_events_and_periods.svg

seems like a pretty decent gap between humans and dinosaurs.

Now again, I'm not saying that dragons weren't real or they couldn't have been some other creature but dinosaurs still seems like a big stretch.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:36 am


Well, the writers of the Bible may have seen fossils and thought that they were creatures still alive a lurking somewhere...

At the same time, the IS evidence that dinosaurs or similar creatures and humanity could have walked the Earth at the same time, such as human footprints inside dinosaur prints... and there have been some unexplainable discrepancies in some Carbon dating results that stirred the Creationists' camp a few years back...

And we aren't talking the mega-behemoths of millions of years ago, but they aren't something you see now...

Yet , I do agree the excitement over "behemoth" is a bit misplaced...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:55 pm


arika-toteshi-ka
2ToneYoshi
arika-toteshi-ka
Job 40: 15-24, the NIV translates "behemoth" as hippo, but my friend strongly believed it was talking about a dinosaur. What do you guys think? I think it would be awesome if it WAS a dinosaur!!!
Actually, it doesn't just describes it as "behemoth", but they are described as dragons. Not the kind we know in the fairy tales like the unicorn. If you read a little further in the book of Job, or anywhere in the Old Testament, it describes the "dragons" a bit similar to dinosaurs. In fact, we should already know the similarities to dragons and dinosaurs. After all, they are both described as giant lizards. You might be wondering, "what about the wings?" Just look at the Taradactile (sp?). This is all from what I know as of right now and need to do some more research about it, but if you want more information, watch this video.
]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5JZI00ISvY

That was a good vid! I wonder what it would have been like to live with giant lizards. Like if they were dangerous or safe enough to ride. If they ate people or not. And if they were as big as we think dinosaurs were, you know?
Ya! I would like to ride a dinosaur just like Yoshi! XD
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:38 pm


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You guys do realize that the Bible was not written to be a science text right?

Just a little glance at a geological timetable will tell you that dinosaurs weren't around when the Bible was being written. Whatever the beasts referred to as dragons or behemoths were, it wasn't dinosaurs. Not saying that these beasts aren't real, just that its not dinosaurs.

I never said that the Bible is a science text. You might be right, it could have been anything, but if you think about it, it would make sense because dragons are known as giant lizards. The same goes for dinosaurs, and in the Old Testament, it mentions dragons up until the flood of Noah's Ark, which I personally believe what killed the dinosaurs. As for the "behemoth" part, the word means powerful beast so that could have been anything. Like a bear or a gorilla.

rmcdra
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Geologic_Clock_with_events_and_periods.svg

seems like a pretty decent gap between humans and dinosaurs.

Now again, I'm not saying that dragons weren't real or they couldn't have been some other creature but dinosaurs still seems like a big stretch.

Now, nobody knows for sure weather or not dinosaurs were before man. They can throw geological time lines left and right but they wont know for sure what really happened until someone builds a time machine and see's for him/herself. You can't really determine what time the dinosaurs live just by depending on how deep they are underground. Again, it could have been caused by the flood of Noah's Ark because the bodies could have sunk into the ground while all the water was evaporated from the sun. I'm not gonna say it's fact or that your wrong or anything like that. Again, you could be right. I just think this makes more sense to me.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:27 pm


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I never said that the Bible is a science text. You might be right, it could have been anything, but if you think about it, it would make sense because dragons are known as giant lizards. The same goes for dinosaurs, and in the Old Testament, it mentions dragons up until the flood of Noah's Ark, which I personally believe what killed the dinosaurs. As for the "behemoth" part, the word means powerful beast so that could have been anything. Like a bear or a gorilla.
Some things to think about concerning the flood, especially if you take it literally

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rmcdra
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Geologic_Clock_with_events_and_periods.svg

seems like a pretty decent gap between humans and dinosaurs.

Now again, I'm not saying that dragons weren't real or they couldn't have been some other creature but dinosaurs still seems like a big stretch.

Now, nobody knows for sure weather or not dinosaurs were before man. They can throw geological time lines left and right but they wont know for sure what really happened until someone builds a time machine and see's for him/herself. You can't really determine what time the dinosaurs live just by depending on how deep they are underground. Again, it could have been caused by the flood of Noah's Ark because the bodies could have sunk into the ground while all the water was evaporated from the sun. I'm not gonna say it's fact or that your wrong or anything like that. Again, you could be right. I just think this makes more sense to me.
Based on the evidence we have so far yes we can. The latest fossils we have of dinosaurs way predates the earliest fossils we have of humans. Why should I not be skeptical of dragons being dinosaurs and not something else? There are other large lizards and other sea creatures that would fit the bill too such as crocodiles, kimono dragons, and the like.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:49 pm


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2ToneYoshi

I never said that the Bible is a science text. You might be right, it could have been anything, but if you think about it, it would make sense because dragons are known as giant lizards. The same goes for dinosaurs, and in the Old Testament, it mentions dragons up until the flood of Noah's Ark, which I personally believe what killed the dinosaurs. As for the "behemoth" part, the word means powerful beast so that could have been anything. Like a bear or a gorilla.
Some things to think about concerning the flood, especially if you take it literally

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rmcdra
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Geologic_Clock_with_events_and_periods.svg

seems like a pretty decent gap between humans and dinosaurs.

Now again, I'm not saying that dragons weren't real or they couldn't have been some other creature but dinosaurs still seems like a big stretch.

Now, nobody knows for sure weather or not dinosaurs were before man. They can throw geological time lines left and right but they wont know for sure what really happened until someone builds a time machine and see's for him/herself. You can't really determine what time the dinosaurs live just by depending on how deep they are underground. Again, it could have been caused by the flood of Noah's Ark because the bodies could have sunk into the ground while all the water was evaporated from the sun. I'm not gonna say it's fact or that your wrong or anything like that. Again, you could be right. I just think this makes more sense to me.
Based on the evidence we have so far yes we can. The latest fossils we have of dinosaurs way predates the earliest fossils we have of humans. Why should I not be skeptical of dragons being dinosaurs and not something else? There are other large lizards and other sea creatures that would fit the bill too such as crocodiles, kimono dragons, and the like.

You got a point, but like I said, nobody will really know for sure until somebody builds a time machine and see's for him/herself.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:56 pm


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2ToneYoshi

I never said that the Bible is a science text. You might be right, it could have been anything, but if you think about it, it would make sense because dragons are known as giant lizards. The same goes for dinosaurs, and in the Old Testament, it mentions dragons up until the flood of Noah's Ark, which I personally believe what killed the dinosaurs. As for the "behemoth" part, the word means powerful beast so that could have been anything. Like a bear or a gorilla.
Some things to think about concerning the flood, especially if you take it literally

Quote:
rmcdra
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Geologic_Clock_with_events_and_periods.svg

seems like a pretty decent gap between humans and dinosaurs.

Now again, I'm not saying that dragons weren't real or they couldn't have been some other creature but dinosaurs still seems like a big stretch.

Now, nobody knows for sure weather or not dinosaurs were before man. They can throw geological time lines left and right but they wont know for sure what really happened until someone builds a time machine and see's for him/herself. You can't really determine what time the dinosaurs live just by depending on how deep they are underground. Again, it could have been caused by the flood of Noah's Ark because the bodies could have sunk into the ground while all the water was evaporated from the sun. I'm not gonna say it's fact or that your wrong or anything like that. Again, you could be right. I just think this makes more sense to me.
Based on the evidence we have so far yes we can. The latest fossils we have of dinosaurs way predates the earliest fossils we have of humans. Why should I not be skeptical of dragons being dinosaurs and not something else? There are other large lizards and other sea creatures that would fit the bill too such as crocodiles, kimono dragons, and the like.

Nice avi btw
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:35 am


2ToneYoshi
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Job 40: 15-24, the NIV translates "behemoth" as hippo, but my friend strongly believed it was talking about a dinosaur. What do you guys think? I think it would be awesome if it WAS a dinosaur!!!
Actually, it doesn't just describes it as "behemoth", but they are described as dragons. Not the kind we know in the fairy tales like the unicorn. If you read a little further in the book of Job, or anywhere in the Old Testament, it describes the "dragons" a bit similar to dinosaurs. In fact, we should already know the similarities to dragons and dinosaurs. After all, they are both described as giant lizards. You might be wondering, "what about the wings?" Just look at the Taradactile (sp?). This is all from what I know as of right now and need to do some more research about it, but if you want more information, watch this video.
]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5JZI00ISvY

Taradactile? Do you mean Pterodactyl?

Anyway, Dinosaurs did exist... killed during the flood. Those who do take it seriously try to use modern erosion like Australia's Blue Mountains as proof of erosion that happened in a matter of months... instead of hundreds of years...

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