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Youroka Kage
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:14 pm


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Well it is time for this to happen. I am putting Two Captains up to be demoted. The Captains are: Enshara and Dakotapikpik.

The Reasons:

Dakota's last was Wed 12/21/11 09:47:16 AM (This is taken from the guild list itself). This show inactivity. Also, I have recently asked Dakota to post in a vote on skype, and he refused to do so. His last RP post was much further than that and the last post was an abstain.

Enshara isn't on the list for inactivity. She is on the list for general bad attitude and lack of respect for everyone other than Reddeye. This has gone on for a while, and with her constantly saying that she is only in the guild to RP and no longer run it seeing that we can't run it the way it needs to be ran. This is an Example of what I mean from yesterday.

Skype OOC
[1/5/2012 10:01:25 PM] Youroka Kage: Enshara?
[1/5/2012 10:02:03 PM] Enshara: yes?
[1/5/2012 10:03:06 PM] Youroka Kage: I wanted to answer your question you posted in the UH here. Yes, that looks simple, but Bri has taken the headings and made them into pictures and preetied it up were I have no skill in doing
[1/5/2012 10:03:34 PM] Enshara: ....
[1/5/2012 10:03:42 PM] Bri: wait what about me?
[1/5/2012 10:03:43 PM] Enshara: then why not post those up
[1/5/2012 10:03:48 PM] Enshara: instead of what was posted up
[1/5/2012 10:04:04 PM] Youroka Kage: Because Bri came in after the fact to save my a**
[1/5/2012 10:04:34 PM] Bri: i made it clear that they are available whenever any of the crew gets the ok to post them.
[1/5/2012 10:04:38 PM] Bri: im not witholding them... ><;
[1/5/2012 10:05:07 PM] Enshara: I would have posted them into the preview BEFORE submitting it to the council for voting
[1/5/2012 10:05:15 PM] Enshara: until I see the pictures i'm stick with what I posted


I had a basic outline up and she voted agains it and this was me trying to tell her what had happened to it. I had stopped after that as not to cause a full on fight in the chat again.

Fights happen often in the OOC and the convo's in teh OOC normally stop when she is on as to not start a fight.

These are the reasons that they are up for this. Also, because this about them, they are not allowed to vote or post in this topic.

This is a vote for demotion to member, not a kick out of the guild,

Now it's time to Vote

Dakota:
Yes:
No:
Abstain:

Enshara:
Yes
No:
Abstain:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:22 pm


I do not see where I have been disrespectful towards anyone. If someone shows disrespect towards me then I do the same. The dots I do I do simply because I'm bored. I would like for you to point out where my disrespect has been. As for bad attitude, that is generally caused by things outside of the guild and not something I like to bring towards the guild chat, thus the reason I'm rarely on skype to begin with and then the times I'm on you guys start thinking all of this. What the hell. I thought you were friends and friends speak up about things like this WAY before now but i suppose we aren't. Thanks a lot, just....really...

And as for what else I posted in that one clip. I was voicing my opinion on the matter. I wasn't having an attitude with anyone but I guess you guys can't see that because I'm apparently always in a bad mood...sorry...after this voting is done, I'll see how things go..I suppose...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:23 pm


I hate to say it but I agree.

Dakota hasn't been posting a lot as of late and doesn't seem to have the drive he once had. Maybe that will change at a later time but for now, we need to have an active crew. I vote yes on his demotion.

For Enshara, I agree as well. Everytime something has been brought up that is important in the OOC chat on Skype, Enshara seems to get too flustered and shoots at any person that she sees fit. Not that Enshara can't do the job but the attitude problem, in my eyes, will not go away.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:39 pm


I trust and agree with you in the decision to demote the two captains. I vote yes on the demotion for both Enshara and Dakotapikpik

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:06 pm


I'm going to stay abstain in this.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:16 pm


Dakota, I'll have to say yes... He's a great friend to me, and I'm sure all of you. But he in fact hasn't done much at all pertaining to the guild for quite a while. He would of course still be in the guild, and if he wishes to, he can start getting back into the groove of being active again.

With Enshara, I'd have to say no... We are all entitled to an opinion. Some of us are more blunt about them then others. Yes, she comes off as disrespectful. Yes, she comes off as unapproachable, and even if you do talk to her, she doesn't say much. Yes, she can sometimes become very angry with small reasonings.. But is this a reason to demote someone? We shouldn't let personal reasons cloud our judgement for business related incidents. She voted on something, that was her decision. To be honest, it's always nice to see that some people don't see it like everyone else does. She obviously didn't like how plain it was, basically what a few of us also said. She didn't realize that people were working on it, but that still didn't mean that she should've changed her vote. She is simply waiting to see the final outcome of the layout and vote on that. Not only that, but did you really need all the votes to say "Yes"? I also do not believe that people that are going to be demoted shouldn't have a say in this forum. I mean, how would anyone like it if they would be demoted for a misunderstanding and they could not even explain themselves? I think they at least deserve a final response instead of being judged in a manner.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:27 pm


I am now going to change my vote on this matter first off. For Dakota he has been inactive and if it continues I am afraid that yes it would be wise to demote him now on the fact of Demoting Enshara for her "Attitude" per say. From the 15 Years almost 16 Ive known her Enshara's Attitude as it may seem to many of you is actually her personality. She may come off as having an attitude, or being pardon my french but a b***h. But in all actuality that really is just her personality and how she acts. She just acts less around redd because he is guild leader and he is in charge and deserves the respect of so. She thinks of all the captains as equals and thus forth dose not see a reason to hide her personality around us. If she is getting demoted for that then that is going to be a loss of a good Captain, Friend, and in my case sister in this guild.

Like Zoro says people are blunt people give off certain "Vibes" Enshara`s may seem angry or irritated or pissed but once again that is just who she is. Like I come off as blunt, a** etc. That is just her own personality and frankly I think we should just respect the fact that she has her personality while we all have our own. Hers may clash with ours or offend you or anything else which may go under those classifications but she still is a good Captain and is entitled to her personality as a person.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:15 pm


Ok...there's going to be some ranting going on, since it's no secret that myself and Dakota feud from time to time, I will NOT be holding anything back.

Dakota: I vote yes to demote him. Dakota has just not been active, not even to vote here in the UH. Also, I have had too many arguments about certain issues. A while back, Kaicho was booted out of the guild due tolack of activity and over all contribution to the guild. He was voted out only to be let back in by Dakota. Every time I talk to him about it I get the same argument "he has the right to watch what he created grow" and I call utter bullshit on that. (Kaicho claims that he was let in with Redd's permission, even though he wasn't guild leader at the time, someone please correct me if my version of events is incorrect). Also, Dakota relentlessly defended Apollo's actions leading up to him getting kicked out even after all the s**t he was saying to EVERYONE who confronted him on his gmodding including Kage, Myself, Redd, and Sadbhbh after we tried being polite to him. Furthermore, he seems to have this idea that he has a monopoly on the rights to Arrancar rpc judging. At one point when Sadbhbh was till a member in SROTS, Dacota was juding her RPC but he had been drawing it out over the course of a full week. Not long after I approve her RPC I get THIS little treasure:

Dakotapikpik
Dude, ******** off. I'm the only one allowed to judge arrancar RPC's until one of your lazy asses pass my ******** test. And for your information her and I were discussing it in PMs trying to get it better. If you do this again, I'm going to have you reported to Reddeye.

(Reason this is worded like this is because I've been having to tell multiple people this.)


What this tell me is that he could have said similar things to others over an exclusive right that he doesn't even have. I'm Sorry Dakota, but from both a personal and professional point of view, I just don't think I can disagree with a decision to demote you.

As for Enshara...her intentions are almost always good but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Therefore, I vote to demote her as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:26 pm


Dakota has always been a dear friend to me, like everyone in SROTS is, but his activity has dropped worse than my own, and that is saying something lol. So he is to be demoted due to inactivity.

Enshara I was originally going to be voting down due to inactivity as well for the past bit of time, however I am going to have to abstain from this and reassess my information on this before I give a full opinion on my vote.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:25 pm


I'll personally agree to the loss of my Captain's seat, I've always been an advocate of "If you can't preform your job, then you don't need to take space," no need to be a hypocrite. The only luxury I ask as you've given to many others is to maintain my council position to continue voting. My house has turn into a war-zone, and my only safe-haven is school, which I can't gain access to this guild. I'm not going to use that as an excuse though, as that is my fault regardless of situation.

Regarding Born, I'm severly disappointed in you for bringing up a message that was both over a year old and previously resolved. I too, have the rest of that PM and several other messages with you giving to me vulgar language. I'll keep your business under the carpet however though, as I'd like some integrity with this reward. I know you've a disdain I don't understand for me, but I'd prefer you keep your personal emotions out of the council and as you say, keep it professional. You and I know you're next on the chopping block for inactivity if it should come, and I'd treat you with due fairness I'd expect. In summary Born, your feelings were irrelevant towards the vote and I'd expected better from you.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:38 pm


With this light my vote remains in demotion of captain, but retaining of council seat. Once and only when he gains the ability to be active again and a stable life, which should not be rushed in any way, you will be able to attain a Captain's seat again, if available.

Enshara, as I have finally come into conclusion, no demotion as long as activity is maintained once we move over into S.U. This will be the same for all of us, and most of all myself as I am one of the higher inactive members. In order to preform my activity return I am bringing in a character in which I was most active with, or will be creating a new one more than likely.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:02 am


Due to the time limit I will post in here. With six votes, Dakota looses his Captain seat, but due to an agreement, he is allowed to keeps crew and captain powers.

Enshara is tied equal votes, three for each, thus will be waiting on another vote to cast the final outcome.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:29 pm


Well, even Dakota agrees with his demotion. in time, he could get back his Captain spot. So I'm OK with him keeping his crew status meanwhile.
About the Enshara's dilemma, I'm in a dilemma. xD
I know she has a rough explosive way of reacting. However, I think that's her personality. Even if she can't react in a calm way, until it causes a severe damage against the guild estructure, I don't see quite a problem...Besides, she's really active, more that many people. I could abstain, but that would leave us in the same spot. x.x So, I will say no on her demotion, but we should keep an eye on her, juuust in case.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:34 pm


It is settled. Enshara keeps her Captain's spot

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