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 Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:42 pm
X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST Shanna66 Chibi-Neko-chan-Konami121 Shanna66 i would keep out of their way and just pray for them to open their hearts to god and realize all he has done for them. i never understood how people can hate god so much, he does what he does for a reason and he gave us life. i think its kind of greedy to expect him to constantly save our butts Yeah, and blame him for all that's wrong in the world. And I'm just like 1. Free will. 2. Satan.
But then they're like, "GOD CREATED EVERYTHING SO HE CREATED EVEL BLAH BLAH BLAH. TROLL."
.___. well he did create evil, but he also gave us the free will to choose wether or not to follow that evil. he gave us the free will to hate him if we desire, i think we should be thankful for that WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH! GOD DID NOT CREATE EVIL AT ALL! Everything God created is good (I Timothy 4:4). The issue is distortion. Example: God made Lucifer - a beautiful angel. Lucifer in his foolishness turned on God, was sent to Hell, and became Satan. God created the beautiful creation, the beautiful creation decided to turn itself into something evil. The God who abhors sin could not and would not create evil. That would contradict Him in so many ways, making Him imperfect and not God. If you think God created evil, show me a verse that proves so. I am 100% sure that it would have to misinterpreted. Everything God created is good, but people have distorted it and so have been punished. Quote:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38 )
These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:52 pm
On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST Shanna66 Chibi-Neko-chan-Konami121 Yeah, and blame him for all that's wrong in the world. And I'm just like 1. Free will. 2. Satan.
But then they're like, "GOD CREATED EVERYTHING SO HE CREATED EVEL BLAH BLAH BLAH. TROLL."
.___. well he did create evil, but he also gave us the free will to choose wether or not to follow that evil. he gave us the free will to hate him if we desire, i think we should be thankful for that WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH! GOD DID NOT CREATE EVIL AT ALL! Everything God created is good (I Timothy 4:4). The issue is distortion. Example: God made Lucifer - a beautiful angel. Lucifer in his foolishness turned on God, was sent to Hell, and became Satan. God created the beautiful creation, the beautiful creation decided to turn itself into something evil. The God who abhors sin could not and would not create evil. That would contradict Him in so many ways, making Him imperfect and not God. If you think God created evil, show me a verse that proves so. I am 100% sure that it would have to misinterpreted. Everything God created is good, but people have distorted it and so have been punished. Quote:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38 )
These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:59 pm
Well, I'd be lying if I said I haven't felt like this at times, so I can see where the person is coming from in a weird way. But I have to remind myself of the things you had already said. Every evil thing comes from Satan. However from what I understand, he allows things to happen. But our God is a mysterious one to us. Letting things happen and expecting us to worship. It's a test of faith. Besides we were cursed for our sins. It's because of our sins that these things happen. We may not understand it, but if you look at all the things you've done in your life in the past, that's when you get on your knees and pray for strength. All that happens is a result of what we do, God or no God. What about natural disasters? Still paying for sins. What about the Tsunami in Japan? Everyone sins, so people pay for it in sometimes big ways. BUT here's the big thing, it brings us closer to Christ because we end up coming together as human beings to help the ones in need. It's because of the bad things that we come together in Christ. Satan can't win, because of the things in our nature. Our nature is to help others. That is what we do.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:12 pm
X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST Shanna66 well he did create evil, but he also gave us the free will to choose wether or not to follow that evil. he gave us the free will to hate him if we desire, i think we should be thankful for that WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH! GOD DID NOT CREATE EVIL AT ALL! Everything God created is good (I Timothy 4:4). The issue is distortion. Example: God made Lucifer - a beautiful angel. Lucifer in his foolishness turned on God, was sent to Hell, and became Satan. God created the beautiful creation, the beautiful creation decided to turn itself into something evil. The God who abhors sin could not and would not create evil. That would contradict Him in so many ways, making Him imperfect and not God. If you think God created evil, show me a verse that proves so. I am 100% sure that it would have to misinterpreted. Everything God created is good, but people have distorted it and so have been punished. Quote:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38 )
These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God. Yes...but what does that prove exactly? If you're talking about the qualities that make Him God those aren't the only things. I'm also talking about His perfect love, faith, righteousness, etc.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:20 pm
Prince Darialan Love Well, I'd be lying if I said I haven't felt like this at times, so I can see where the person is coming from in a weird way. But I have to remind myself of the things you had already said. Every evil thing comes from Satan. However from what I understand, he allows things to happen. But our God is a mysterious one to us. Letting things happen and expecting us to worship. It's a test of faith. Besides we were cursed for our sins. It's because of our sins that these things happen. We may not understand it, but if you look at all the things you've done in your life in the past, that's when you get on your knees and pray for strength. All that happens is a result of what we do, God or no God. What about natural disasters? Still paying for sins. What about the Tsunami in Japan? Everyone sins, so people pay for it in sometimes big ways. BUT here's the big thing, it brings us closer to Christ because we end up coming together as human beings to help the ones in need. It's because of the bad things that we come together in Christ. Satan can't win, because of the things in our nature. Our nature is to help others. That is what we do. Well put
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:37 am
On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH! GOD DID NOT CREATE EVIL AT ALL! Everything God created is good (I Timothy 4:4). The issue is distortion. Example: God made Lucifer - a beautiful angel. Lucifer in his foolishness turned on God, was sent to Hell, and became Satan. God created the beautiful creation, the beautiful creation decided to turn itself into something evil. The God who abhors sin could not and would not create evil. That would contradict Him in so many ways, making Him imperfect and not God. If you think God created evil, show me a verse that proves so. I am 100% sure that it would have to misinterpreted. Everything God created is good, but people have distorted it and so have been punished. Quote:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38 )
These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God. Yes...but what does that prove exactly? If you're talking about the qualities that make Him God those aren't the only things. I'm also talking about His perfect love, faith, righteousness, etc.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:03 pm
X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God. Yes...but what does that prove exactly? If you're talking about the qualities that make Him God those aren't the only things. I'm also talking about His perfect love, faith, righteousness, etc. Yes...that still doesn't change anything...
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:15 pm
X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God. Yes...but what does that prove exactly? If you're talking about the qualities that make Him God those aren't the only things. I'm also talking about His perfect love, faith, righteousness, etc. Try this: Did God Create Evil?
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:33 am
On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God. Yes...but what does that prove exactly? If you're talking about the qualities that make Him God those aren't the only things. I'm also talking about His perfect love, faith, righteousness, etc. Yes...that still doesn't change anything...
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:34 am
On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST X - Citation Needed - X On_Fire_4_CHRIST These verses are talking about the Lord punishing people for their wrong doing. It is referred to as "evil" but it doesn't mean evil as an opposite of good. For God to make actual evil would make Him contradictory and thus imperfect, and, therefore, not God. Yes...but what does that prove exactly? If you're talking about the qualities that make Him God those aren't the only things. I'm also talking about His perfect love, faith, righteousness, etc. Try this: Did God Create Evil?
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