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 Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:56 pm
Please forgive my lack of information.
I've heard a lot about Greenpeace, but only recently have I begun to check them out in earnest. And from what little I've seen, they seem really cool. Environmentally concerned people in a large group that aren't eco-terrorists and have concerns for human and animal rights as well. They appear well rounded and earnest in their intent.
But I've also heard some negatives, and their website information seems... off, to me. I can't tell that this is mere paranoia or a legitimate fear. It seems best to make sure, as I once thought PETA was a good idea also.
Does anyone have information on Greenpeace? Are they a worthwhile endevour?
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:18 pm
Um, haven't heard that much about them, nor have I really researched into them. They sound like a pretty nice group of people though. If I get anything I'll be sure to comment here. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:01 pm
I heard that they might be kind of extremists. I was told that they go out and ram fishing boats that are hunting dolphins and whales in Japan.
Which is a "yay" for them for sure, but it does seem slightly extreme. Although the Japanese government doesn't do anything about illegal fishing.
Aaaanyway. From what I know they're awesome folks, but I myself am joining Americorps (with the PeaceCorps branch). Their methods seem better for a changing/ adapting community as apposed to instant change no matter what with no expected consequence.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:08 am
I think Greenpeace are great. I am a member of them - not active because sadly there is no local group near me, but I get the magazine and email action alerts. They seem to do areally good job, particulary with ocean related campaigns against whaling and pollution.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:14 pm
Hmmm...It seems we have some contradictions here.... confused
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:02 am
I've heard also that they "ram" whaling vessels, but whenever I've looked more in-depth at the incident it usually sounds like what they're actually doing is getting in between the whaling vessel and the whales they're trying to hunt, so that the whaling vessels actually run into them. In those cases, the idea that they were "ramming" the whaling vessels was actually a spin that anti-environmentalists were putting on the incidences. AFAIK, Greenpeace has a strong policy of non-violence.
What on their website appeared off?
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:13 pm
Wishbone Redemption Please forgive my lack of information. I've heard a lot about Greenpeace, but only recently have I begun to check them out in earnest. And from what little I've seen, they seem really cool. Environmentally concerned people in a large group that aren't eco-terrorists and have concerns for human and animal rights as well. They appear well rounded and earnest in their intent. But I've also heard some negatives, and their website information seems... off, to me. I can't tell that this is mere paranoia or a legitimate fear. It seems best to make sure, as I once thought PETA was a good idea also. Does anyone have information on Greenpeace? Are they a worthwhile endevour? I don't know much about Greenpeace, but I have something to say in PETA's defense. I assume you're talking about that www.petakillsanimals.com site. If you never bothered to look, it's run by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). The CCF is an organization that puts money into supporting and advertising the meat industry. They are associated with major meat companies, and vegetarians are thus detrimental to their organization and businesses. They made up those things about PETA and are advertising it as fact. Why? Because if more people went vegetarian (or, *gasp*, vegan), then all of their friends would lose profits. I advise looking into these things more. PETA doesn't kill animals in shelters or any of that jazz. If only people looked into things without just believing what is said, I'm sure so many people wouldn't be so ignorant of everything (including the earth.) Err.. but no offense. I know I went off topic, but really, someone has to clear up PETA's name from all this slanderous filth. >_<
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:12 pm
Psycho_Katie Wishbone Redemption Please forgive my lack of information. I've heard a lot about Greenpeace, but only recently have I begun to check them out in earnest. And from what little I've seen, they seem really cool. Environmentally concerned people in a large group that aren't eco-terrorists and have concerns for human and animal rights as well. They appear well rounded and earnest in their intent. But I've also heard some negatives, and their website information seems... off, to me. I can't tell that this is mere paranoia or a legitimate fear. It seems best to make sure, as I once thought PETA was a good idea also. Does anyone have information on Greenpeace? Are they a worthwhile endevour? I don't know much about Greenpeace, but I have something to say in PETA's defense. I assume you're talking about that www.petakillsanimals.com site. If you never bothered to look, it's run by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). The CCF is an organization that puts money into supporting and advertising the meat industry. They are associated with major meat companies, and vegetarians are thus detrimental to their organization and businesses. They made up those things about PETA and are advertising it as fact. Why? Because if more people went vegetarian (or, *gasp*, vegan), then all of their friends would lose profits. I advise looking into these things more. PETA doesn't kill animals in shelters or any of that jazz. If only people looked into things without just believing what is said, I'm sure so many people wouldn't be so ignorant of everything (including the earth.) Err.. but no offense. I know I went off topic, but really, someone has to clear up PETA's name from all this slanderous filth. >_<
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:00 pm
rikuHEART Psycho_Katie Wishbone Redemption Please forgive my lack of information. I've heard a lot about Greenpeace, but only recently have I begun to check them out in earnest. And from what little I've seen, they seem really cool. Environmentally concerned people in a large group that aren't eco-terrorists and have concerns for human and animal rights as well. They appear well rounded and earnest in their intent. But I've also heard some negatives, and their website information seems... off, to me. I can't tell that this is mere paranoia or a legitimate fear. It seems best to make sure, as I once thought PETA was a good idea also. Does anyone have information on Greenpeace? Are they a worthwhile endevour? I don't know much about Greenpeace, but I have something to say in PETA's defense. I assume you're talking about that www.petakillsanimals.com site. If you never bothered to look, it's run by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). The CCF is an organization that puts money into supporting and advertising the meat industry. They are associated with major meat companies, and vegetarians are thus detrimental to their organization and businesses. They made up those things about PETA and are advertising it as fact. Why? Because if more people went vegetarian (or, *gasp*, vegan), then all of their friends would lose profits. I advise looking into these things more. PETA doesn't kill animals in shelters or any of that jazz. If only people looked into things without just believing what is said, I'm sure so many people wouldn't be so ignorant of everything (including the earth.) Err.. but no offense. I know I went off topic, but really, someone has to clear up PETA's name from all this slanderous filth. >_< I agree that you should look into things yourself and do your own research before judging anything! On the issue of Greenpeace, I haven't really looked into them but I have heard some very negetative things. I am all for the environmentally friendly people and for the environmentally conscious, but in Greenpeace's case, I believe they are a bit extreme just from what I hear, if all i hear is true. But it deserves to be looked into!
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:16 am
DavidOshi rikuHEART Psycho_Katie Wishbone Redemption Please forgive my lack of information. I've heard a lot about Greenpeace, but only recently have I begun to check them out in earnest. And from what little I've seen, they seem really cool. Environmentally concerned people in a large group that aren't eco-terrorists and have concerns for human and animal rights as well. They appear well rounded and earnest in their intent. But I've also heard some negatives, and their website information seems... off, to me. I can't tell that this is mere paranoia or a legitimate fear. It seems best to make sure, as I once thought PETA was a good idea also. Does anyone have information on Greenpeace? Are they a worthwhile endevour? I don't know much about Greenpeace, but I have something to say in PETA's defense. I assume you're talking about that www.petakillsanimals.com site. If you never bothered to look, it's run by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). The CCF is an organization that puts money into supporting and advertising the meat industry. They are associated with major meat companies, and vegetarians are thus detrimental to their organization and businesses. They made up those things about PETA and are advertising it as fact. Why? Because if more people went vegetarian (or, *gasp*, vegan), then all of their friends would lose profits. I advise looking into these things more. PETA doesn't kill animals in shelters or any of that jazz. If only people looked into things without just believing what is said, I'm sure so many people wouldn't be so ignorant of everything (including the earth.) Err.. but no offense. I know I went off topic, but really, someone has to clear up PETA's name from all this slanderous filth. >_< I agree that you should look into things yourself and do your own research before judging anything! On the issue of Greenpeace, I haven't really looked into them but I have heard some very negetative things. I am all for the environmentally friendly people and for the environmentally conscious, but in Greenpeace's case, I believe they are a bit extreme just from what I hear, if all i hear is true. But it deserves to be looked into! I guess it depends on your definition of 'extreme' - Greenpeace do a fantastic job of sticking up for the environment without compromise, while staying within the law. If believing that protecting the planet from futher harm caused by humankind makes me an extremist then so be it! I have always thought of Greenpeace as legitimate and mainstream and also very effective. I am in principle, not against the tactics used by more 'hardcore' environmental groups, such as the Earth Liberation Frount (ELF). I know this is a lot more radical, but sometimes it is necessary to break the law to defend the Earth, as long as no living creatures (human or non-human) are hurt. So when you consider all the underground environmental groups out there, who cause criminal damage to the tools of environmental destruction, I am a little suprised that anyone has a problem with Greenpeace, whose campaigns could be said to be tame in comparison! Personally, I believe all kinds of tactics are needed to achieve change.
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:09 pm
Badgerkin DavidOshi rikuHEART Psycho_Katie Wishbone Redemption Please forgive my lack of information. I've heard a lot about Greenpeace, but only recently have I begun to check them out in earnest. And from what little I've seen, they seem really cool. Environmentally concerned people in a large group that aren't eco-terrorists and have concerns for human and animal rights as well. They appear well rounded and earnest in their intent. But I've also heard some negatives, and their website information seems... off, to me. I can't tell that this is mere paranoia or a legitimate fear. It seems best to make sure, as I once thought PETA was a good idea also. Does anyone have information on Greenpeace? Are they a worthwhile endevour? I don't know much about Greenpeace, but I have something to say in PETA's defense. I assume you're talking about that www.petakillsanimals.com site. If you never bothered to look, it's run by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). The CCF is an organization that puts money into supporting and advertising the meat industry. They are associated with major meat companies, and vegetarians are thus detrimental to their organization and businesses. They made up those things about PETA and are advertising it as fact. Why? Because if more people went vegetarian (or, *gasp*, vegan), then all of their friends would lose profits. I advise looking into these things more. PETA doesn't kill animals in shelters or any of that jazz. If only people looked into things without just believing what is said, I'm sure so many people wouldn't be so ignorant of everything (including the earth.) Err.. but no offense. I know I went off topic, but really, someone has to clear up PETA's name from all this slanderous filth. >_< I agree that you should look into things yourself and do your own research before judging anything! On the issue of Greenpeace, I haven't really looked into them but I have heard some very negetative things. I am all for the environmentally friendly people and for the environmentally conscious, but in Greenpeace's case, I believe they are a bit extreme just from what I hear, if all i hear is true. But it deserves to be looked into! I guess it depends on your definition of 'extreme' - Greenpeace do a fantastic job of sticking up for the environment without compromise, while staying within the law. If believing that protecting the planet from futher harm caused by humankind makes me an extremist then so be it! I have always thought of Greenpeace as legitimate and mainstream and also very effective. I am in principle, not against the tactics used by more 'hardcore' environmental groups, such as the Earth Liberation Frount (ELF). I know this is a lot more radical, but sometimes it is necessary to break the law to defend the Earth, as long as no living creatures (human or non-human) are hurt. So when you consider all the underground environmental groups out there, who cause criminal damage to the tools of environmental destruction, I am a little suprised that anyone has a problem with Greenpeace, whose campaigns could be said to be tame in comparison! Personally, I believe all kinds of tactics are needed to achieve change. Indeed, I do agree with you for the most part! Using *extreme* measures is effective when dealing with our government. I am just pointing out that using these extreme measures sometimes does more harm than good, that is, in some cases!
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:58 pm
Neh...I don't know enough about Greenpeace to tell! I've barely even heard of them...
Edit: Nvm. I do NOT support Greenpeace. They aren't as extreme as PETA or ELF, but still...They've done some illegal stuff. There was a protest that they organized...somewhere in Europe, I think, if I remember correctly. Anywho, they were throwing GM foods at a GMOs research building. neutral Watched a video of it.
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