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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:12 pm
Mkay, here's the sitiation:
My horse, Gidget, was green broke when I got her. I've had her for about three or four years, and now she's almost perfect.
She's come a LOOONG way. I've recently moved from California to Wisconsin, and ever since she's seemed...different. I'd experienced problems with her picking up her left lead, and after I moved she'd favored the left lead. And now she's rough on her right lead.
A few months ago, she'd been tough. If I showed her anything that whipped around, she'd have freaked. But now, she's carrying a flag in our county drill team. And just a year ago, I'd barely started showing her, and she'd freak when I took her anywhere new.
A year later, and not many shows later, I'm confidently enering her in cantering classes, when less than six months ago I would have been debating whether to do even walk-trot.
So. That's mine and Gidget's story. Do YOU have any proud moments you'd like to share?
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:03 pm
Ohboy Cimmaron and I have been though a lot! I dont own her, but shes the only horse I ride in my lesson, except for right now, since she's lame.
When I started riding her over a year ago, she counter bended, rushed into the canter, rushed jumps, dodged corners.
Counter bending was a quick fix, the canter rushing stopped quickly too.
Rushing the jumps took awhile, but we eventually got through it.
Dodging corners, ohman, sometimes we still have this battle, going around the ring shes fine, but if we jump on an angle, she tries to dodge that corner. Almost perfect (:
Our first show, she galloped around the ring. Why? Before I couldnt keep her in the canter, so I carried a whip, when the announcer person asked for us to canter, she took off, surprisingly I didnt place last in that class.
our second show she was AMAZING! Couldn't have asked for a better ride.
The good days are what keep us going.
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:30 am
Oh definitely! Gidget as well!
I ride Western, so I don't do jumps, but I really want to try! A lot of horsepeople I know say she'd make a good English horse, but I'm not sure. She's got that slow Western jog, slow Western lope...
But yeah. It's always fun!
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:32 am
When I started working with Corky it was because no one else wanted to ride him, so my coach gave him to me as a "project horse". He was a horrible head tosser, he was a shark on the ground, and would take off in any gait faster than a walk.
I rode him almost exclusively my last two years at school, took him to a couple shows where we did quite well. He is now the most reliable 1st level dressage horse on the property. The unfortunate part is that now that he's so well trained and so steady, there's little to no chance that they'll give him up unless he goes lame or the program closes (which might be a possibility, since the school lost it's accreditation). I told my coach when I left that anytime she needs a home for him, that I'd take him in a heartbeat, no matter the circumstance. I'll be really upset if I finally get him back and he's unrideable, but I love that horse too much, he'd be my pasture pet forever. heart
Last summer I was working as a working student for a dressage trainer where I used to live. It was a fantastic experience and I learned a lot. We got this big Swedish warmblood in for training, and, after talking to the owner about it, she gave him to me for a project. The horse had some serious attitude issues and tried to rear 3 or 4 times the first time I rode him. He was very big and very fancy and was not interested in hearing your ideas of how things were going to go. It took me a few weeks to figure him out, but eventually I started making progress with the "redirection" technique once I realized that he was actively trying to pick a fight with me because he knew that he was big enough and could win. So whenever he would misbehave, rather than get after him about it, I would change what we were doing and just "go somewhere else". After a few weeks, he started getting really consistent for me. The trainer got on him one day and he started flipping his head. She got after him and they quickly escalated. I got back on him, went back to my redirection technique and had a really nice ride. She was so impressed with how well I had worked with him, she couldn't believe it. Definitely one of my proudest moments.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:26 am
The year Elegant was born she was one of 3 foals that were born on the property that year, and I called "dibs" on her. When she was 3 I (with my coaches guidance and help) started her. I've probably put in 98% of her rides. Now at 5 we are confidant in first level dressage (though I'm showing training this year), schooling second. By this fall I think we'd be ready for the FEI 5 year old tests if there were any shows in the area doing them. We're also jumping 2'6 courses well and she's just starting to get her flying changes. We did cross country this summer which she loved (as did I!). Our biggest jump to date was a 3 foot square table jump on the cross country course!
Sometimes when we have a less productive or difficult ride I just think about how far she really is for her age and what we've achieved together and it makes me excited all over again to come out and ride tomorrow.
But since she's my coaches horse she is for sale. I think my proudest moment will be when someone comes to try her out and is impressed with her as I am and decides to take her home.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:54 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:28 pm
Aww, Yay Elegant! She's come SO far Brat. You should be very proud smile
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:31 pm
Well, I'd like a little bit of advice here.
My instructor for our county 4-H equestrian drill team, who is also an instructor for riding, told me my horse wasn't ready for flying lead changes.
But I know she is. She's done them before- plenty of times. The trainer's excuse is that she can't hold her left lead. But she can. The circle she had me going in was too small in my opinion.
What should I do?
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:32 am
You know your horse more than she does.
SHOW her that your horse is ready, show her she can hold her left lead.
And start really working with getting flying lead changes. (: Just show off xD
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:27 am
Alright, thanks!
I've already been practicing the flying changes at home, and she's almost got them. But our arena isn't set up yet, and it's too small, I think. So she doesn't change. She's done it a couple times, and usually when I ask her to go from lope to trot back to lope, she takes one stride of trot then picks up the opposite lead.
She's almost there, I can feel it. She's been slowing it down a bit, but we're still working on it.
Thanks so much for your help! I can do that! ;D
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:45 pm
What do you look for, in a western horse, to know they're ready to start changes? I'm honestly curious, I got bored too quickly in my western-pleasure 4-H group to get to changes, and most of the girls in my area just bought finished horses, so they had no idea how to put changes on them. (I mean no offense to western people! This was just how things were in my hometown)
In dressage, before you introduce changes your horse should have their simple changes (which are through the walk in dressage language, through the trot is a trot change) perfect, and their counter canter needs to be nearly perfect on both sides. Part of that is because the counter canter is a movement asked for up through the highest levels of competition, we don't want our horses "auto-changing" so we need to be sure they're very balanced in the counter canter before we teach them to change.
I suppose my criteria would still always be balance. If your horse is balanced on both leads, and the transitions are smooth as it is, I would imagine you'd be ready to start adding the changes?
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:57 am
For Elegant the thing we had to work on the most was getting her hot off my leg. She's long and floaty and would rather be lofty and slow than spring off the aid. Perfect leg yielding is a must, at all gaits. We had to be able to leg yield from the wall to the quarter line and back to the wall again at canter while staying straight and supple before thinking about asking for a change. Also like Aria said, simple changes (through walk) are something you need to be able to do first as it verifies the horse understands half halts, leg, and leads. That being said, changes in the western and hunter world are a bit different. Last year when we first started jumping small Xs and poles Elegant would change as she came to the corner because of balance. And usually this is when you see western horses being asked for changes, like at "X" in a reining pattern. These kind of changes horses are generally more strung out and have a greater tendency to change "front to back", which -even if its in the very next stride the change is completed- is a rougher change. In dressage the horse is expected to stay more collected, back on it's haunches, straight, and in perfect balance. You can over school changes. A mare I rode once was hot about her changes and if you were cantering straight down the line and put on more leg for straightness or impulsion she would change and get hot. The worst thing you can do is get a horse in a place where they will change on the front and just stay stuck there. At that point it's better to bring the horse back to walk for just a couple steps, and ask for the new lead again. The kind of changes I'm working on with Elegant now I'm schooling on the flat, but using them effectively when we're jumping.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:38 pm
Ugh, I hate the horses that get really hot off their changes. I drew a horse at an IDA competition once to ride first level on (trot changes). Coming across the diagonal, I could feel him getting ready to change (he was also a level 4 jumper and had been showing 3rd level that summer. And overschooled, from the looks of it). I tried my best to hold the lead, and got the first one through the trot, but he was PISSED that I wouldn't let him change. The second one, he felt me half-halt for the downward, flicked his ears back, changed for one stride, then came down the the trot and picked up the new lead perfectly. He was 18.2hh, so there was really only so much I could do... But, like Brat said, changes in hunters and western are different than dressage. I want changes to happen on a cue, not just because we're changing direction and they're better balanced that way. They need to be balanced enough to canter on the wrong lead on a circle and it to be easy and comfortable. Hunters, you want them to automatically change when they change direction so that you don't have to think about it (at least amateur hunters.) I've also been told that it doesn't count against your score in hunters if the change isn't clean, which kind of blew my mind. Why wouldn't you aspire for a clean change?? It's not comfortable in the least if it takes two or three strides for the hind end to catch up. But there I go, applying logic to hunters again... razz (no offense to any hunters in here, of course. I can make fun of my own sport just as much as any others, don't worry)
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