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Which do you think I should do?
Closed Adoption.
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Open Adoption.
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Keep the baby.
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Total Votes : 22


MidnightsGaurdian

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:27 am


Oni-Angel
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As for why this keeps happening 1) Her uncle is just scum and 2) she is a petite woman... she's my "lil' shorty" and people seem to think they can push her around.


First of all, she should probably have some counciling for this if she hasn't already. Rape victims (I know from experience) learn to "freeze" during situations where they are being hurt and to "go away" from themselves while the attacker does what he wants. This is destructive when it comes to situations where she can still escape but has already given up at. I know this because it's happened to me before, and only through a lot of working at it, has it lessened in degree.

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Mace/Pepper spray are both illegal here. At least last I heard they were.


If you're in California, then it is NOT illegal. You have to go to one of those nurse/uniform stores, but you have to watch a video to get licenced for it.

If that doesn't work, buy a small squirtbottle and fill it up with a solution of 30% bleach and 70% water. The caustic properties of bleach would cause chemical burns on the attacker that may not be permanent but would hurt if sprayed in the eyes or in any orifices.

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I'm working on getting her an alarm.


An alarm won't work if she's been taken away from other people (which most rapists do to their victims).

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The birth control thing is... a good idea.. but world shattering. A person shouldn't have to use birth control just because they fear gettinng raped. It makes me realize just how screwed up the word really is.


It's also a good idea as a back up method in YOUR sex life TOGETHER, so that way she is less likely to get pregnant again after she has the baby. If you are both in college, it's going to be hard to support one, let alone two babies.


I wish the two of you the best of luck. If you need help, please don't hesitate to PM me.


I'm pretty sure that's partly what happened to her... the freezing up... as for liscensing, I didn't know about that. Originally I heard both were illegal then someone said pepper spray but not mace was illegal. As for the alarm, I don't really plan on her being alone. Her schedual is already set-up so that she shares a class and carpools with 2 other girls and my good friend Joe. At least until we're able to get mace... and another thing... cassandra and I are waiting until marriage. People seem to assume right away that, because we live together, we have sex. We don't. I can't say it's not tempting, but we both have our morals and we stick with them... we do have condoms just in case as well as other methods, but both of us do intend to wait.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:16 pm


MidnightsGaurdian
I'm pretty sure that's partly what happened to her... the freezing up... as for liscensing, I didn't know about that. Originally I heard both were illegal then someone said pepper spray but not mace was illegal.


Definately do some research. I got my mace from a nurse supply store and uniform shop. They have them all over CA (I'm pretty sure that's where you said you were from).

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As for the alarm, I don't really plan on her being alone. Her schedual is already set-up so that she shares a class and carpools with 2 other girls and my good friend Joe. At least until we're able to get mace...


Even so, I don't think that SHE planned on being alone or being with someone who would hurt her. It's something that is best to be prepared for "just in case" because at least if nothing happens, you merely won't have to use your tactics. Personally, the bleach thing might be a good idea, because if she squirts him and he gets away, the chemical burns will definately incriminate him.

Also, women have been known to be raped while pregnant. For the health of the unborn fetus (as well as herself, obviously), you may be wise to have her be protect herself if she is somehow on her own.

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and another thing... cassandra and I are waiting until marriage. People seem to assume right away that, because we live together, we have sex. We don't. I can't say it's not tempting, but we both have our morals and we stick with them... we do have condoms just in case as well as other methods, but both of us do intend to wait.


I understand about your ideas on sex, but one day you WILL be getting married, and when you do, you're going to want to be able to just be able to have sex without the fear of unwanted pregnancy. If she's already on birth control pills, you have a very little chance of pregnancy, and it regulates periods REALLY well (I used to have AWFUL periods and they evened out very well on the Pill).

There are tons of people who are on birth control for reasons other than because they're sexually active.

I just suggest that it would be a good idea, considering her history with sexual abuse, and her current situation.

If you live in CA, you can get birth control pills and other such things for free at specific clinics. I can suggest or reccommend some that I've worked with before if you'd be interested in merely finding out more about different methods to use.

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wotfan

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:33 pm


I can tell you if you are as dedicated in your whole life as you are in your schoolwork you will make an excellent Mother. I also think if you decide to keep you should take him to court and get a court ordered paternity test so he will be required to give you child support. If you decide not to keep I think open adoption would be the best option for you it does sound like you are getting attatched and I can tell you from experience that once you have bonded with a baby for 9 months you dont want to let them go. I think women who can do it are brave and I wish I coud say I had as much strength and will that they do. Please keep us posted and let us know what is going on with you. We are all here for you.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:47 am


Thank you wotfan... honestly... I'm terrified of screwing up. The knowledge that every choice I make will ultimately determine the person that my baby becomes can be an overwhelming thought sometimes. I do plan on taking him to court and getting child support. I will be sure to keep you guys updated.

Well, we won't be getting married for at least another two years. Anyway... planned parenthood only gives free birth control to people who don't make any money... or make very little money... my salary is.. way too much to qualify for that... I'm actually really worried birth control will screw up my period... as it is right now I don't really get cramps... and when I do it's nothing bad... and I swear you can tell time with my period... it's just like a clock... I was thinking more along the lines of getting an IUD... although that might screw with my period too. I'm so indecisive... I'm not too keen on fake hormones... I'm just not... that kind of stuff is just scary to me.. anti-depressants... yeah... there's a reason I never took those. Anything that doesn't naturally belong in my body... I generally don't want to take. I won't even take tylenol more than half the time. Yeah.. I'm weird that way... I don't know.. I really never planned on needing birth control.. The plan was that nothing would happen until Tristan and I got married and I figured "that's two years away... I don't have to worry about the pill/the shot/etc now" We have condoms amd we watch expiration dates and we have spermicides and other things just in case... but we just weren't planning on making this decision now...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:46 pm


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Thank you wotfan... honestly... I'm terrified of screwing up. The knowledge that every choice I make will ultimately determine the person that my baby becomes can be an overwhelming thought sometimes. I do plan on taking him to court and getting child support. I will be sure to keep you guys updated.


This happened recently, so I suppose that it's not technically a "baby" yet. However, the most important thing is how YOU think of it. I get extremely protective feelings when I even THINK about potential future children. 3nodding

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Well, we won't be getting married for at least another two years. Anyway... planned parenthood only gives free birth control to people who don't make any money... or make very little money... my salary is.. way too much to qualify for that...


How much, if I may ask? Is it less than 10,000 dollars per year?

If you get paid more than that, they still have low-cost stuff, and it doesn't have to be hormonal birth control. Definately consider your options.

If you decide not to, then either decide not to have sex or be willing to have a nice, large family.

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I'm actually really worried birth control will screw up my period... as it is right now I don't really get cramps... and when I do it's nothing bad... and I swear you can tell time with my period... it's just like a clock...


The pill is not supposed to screw up your period at all. It actually regulates it by making sure there are specific (low amounts) hormones in your body that turn off your ovaries and make the lining of your uterus impossible to implant upon.

This way, if you accidentally drop an egg and the sperm fertilizes it, the embryo does not attach.

The pill makes your body think it is "pregnant" in the way that it keeps your ovaries from producing an egg until the levels of the hormones goes down (at the end of the cycle pack).

My period used to be REALLY horrible, and now it's REALLY regular, so I guess we're kind of opposites.

But then again, I'm a big strong Viking-like girl, and I'm pretty scary. sweatdrop

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I was thinking more along the lines of getting an IUD... although that might screw with my period too. I'm so indecisive...


Personally, I think you need to do more research with doctors and professionals before you nay-say IUDs and birth control pills. There's even a ring that does the same thing as birth control pills and you just put it up inside you and it works all month long.

IUDs do nothing to "screw" with your period. And, none of these "screw" with your period more than a pregnancy.

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I'm not too keen on fake hormones... I'm just not... that kind of stuff is just scary to me.. anti-depressants... yeah... there's a reason I never took those.


Not everyone needs anti-depressants, but I know a few people with hormonal problems that needed them to function properly.

My autistic friend? If he didn't have his meds, he would not be able to function in society. I've seen him when he doesn't, and he becomes a different (and scary) person.

So, definately, I think that the best thing to do is talk to a professional who knows in-depth what you may need and what will work the best with your body chemistry and your psychological state.

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Anything that doesn't naturally belong in my body... I generally don't want to take. I won't even take tylenol more than half the time. Yeah.. I'm weird that way...


Unfortunately, as I'm finding out more and more, there's tons of weird stuff that does not naturally belong in your body that you inhale every day, just because it's in the air, or in the food you eat (over half of even the "fresh veggies" you get at the store are genetically modified in weird ways for purely cosmetic purposes).

So, therefore, I would try to get over your squeamishness with "unnatural" things if it will help you to maintain a healthy sex life together with your love, and not have to worry about poverty from having ten kids.

Seriously, condoms are not "natural" and neither is spermacide, but you mentioned using them. Spermacide gives me a rash every time, so I can't use it for medical reasons, but please don't opt out of something just because it makes you feel funny and you don't know much more than hearsay and a few propaganda ads.

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I don't know.. I really never planned on needing birth control.. The plan was that nothing would happen until Tristan and I got married and I figured "that's two years away... I don't have to worry about the pill/the shot/etc now" We have condoms amd we watch expiration dates and we have spermicides and other things just in case... but we just weren't planning on making this decision now...


I've noticed that when it comes to sex, the failture rate of abstinence is, sadly, rape. And, considering that you seem to be unlucky enough to have had it happen to you on multiple occasions, you cannot be too careful.

It would be awful if some man raped you and made you miscarry just because he was so rough, or worse, infected you with AIDS or something that would make your baby unhealthy and die.

You must protect yourself for the sake of YOU, your BABY, and ALL THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE.

Hell, if I could, I'd be your bodyguard, because no one should treat a kind young woman like yourself in such a way, but unfortunately, we cannot always have someone there to protect us. That is why I highly suggest having a method that you will actually be able to USE if put in such a situation.

I've seen pretty awful footage in my social psychology class of rape victims, especially pregnant women who have been raped while merely waiting at a bus stop or walking to the store.

If you live in an urban area, your chances of rape double.

Please take this into consideration.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:04 am


I agree that asking your doctor about the pill and other contraceptives would be a good idea. Personally, I don't think it will do anything to harm your period (since it is meant to do exactly what your body is doing naturally - I honestly doubt that it will work in reverse if your body is already there). But it's best to go see a doctor who knows more about this stuff and your body.

As for worrying about your child, what you have to understand is that kids are extremely resilient little creatures. As long as you have good intentions and love your child, he/she will grow up to be a happy and healthy person. No matter how "fragile" a baby may seem, they are very hard to break. I've even known many people who were severely abused as kids and have still grown up to be very "normal" and happy people who have gone on to make fantastic parents themselves. Even I certainly didn't have a stable home growing up, but it's ok. I'm a little different from most people because of it, but I'm still happy and healthy.

So don't worry. Your child will be just fine smile

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AwaitingMidnight

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:20 pm


Oni-Angel

Seriously, condoms are not "natural" and neither is spermacide, but you mentioned using them. Spermacide gives me a rash every time, so I can't use it for medical reasons, but please don't opt out of something just because it makes you feel funny and you don't know much more than hearsay and a few propaganda ads.


We don't have sex so we have never used either condoms or spermicides. We did test the spermacides to see if I had any negative reactions to them and I did to 2 brands but we found one that's ok. Condoms.. we went to planned parenthood and he learned how to put them on etc... and we did discuss birth control and stuff then.. and I was actually going to get on it but I make too much money to get it for free or reduced cost. It would be cheaper if I went through my doctor to get it. That and I just couldn't decide... there's a shot form and patches and pills... and I just didn't know which one I wanted to use... Either way I still don't like taking medications even when doctors say "it's ok" because most of those doctors are the same ones that wanted to put me on anti-depressants at 15 years old and those are serious medications that NO ONE really knows the true potential of. Then when the lady at planned parenthood was going over some of the side affects of birth control there was some serious stuff associated with them... heart attack, stroke, bloodclot? I am not looking to increase my risk to any of those... I understand there's aresnic (and many other things) in the air, believe me, I do... that doesn't mean I'm willing to add more to it willingly. I guess I'm just a paranoid health freak and always have been...
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