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the illuminati infiltrated the freemasons back in the 1700s. the freemasons of highest ranks, do the illuminati's bidding. the freemasons/illuminati help their highest ranks get into positions of power and thus have infiltrated the governments etc. there are other secret groups who do a lot to sway america into their agenda too. take a look at the Bilderberg, CFR, Club of Rome,Trilateral Commision, Bohemian thread i made. http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=18635801

well, from the intro page to the guild i wrote this:

So.. when someone already has all the money they could ever need, what do they still desire? Power of course. The elite want a New World Order and it is absolutely real, there is no conspiracy theory about it. Watch this movie for total proof. I'm sure you've heard of the Illuminati before and how people call them the shadow or secret government, but you are probably convinced by the media that they are just some fictional group. Well, I've done the research and I'm here to tell you, they are very real, although they do not call themselves the Illuminati anymore. All historians will admit that the Illuminati certainly existed in Bavaria Germany and that they were founded in 1776 by a man named Adam Weishaupt. Although there are others who say the Illuminati have been around long before that (perhaps they came from the Knights Templar?). The Illuminati was a type of revolutionary organization that sought political and societal reform (a one world government). The Illuminati grew fast and became very popular; it enrolled no less than 2000 names upon it's registers, among whom were some of the most distinguished men of Germany. It quickly extended it's lodges across Europe and then, according to historians like Albert Makey and others, they began to infiltrate the Freemason society to aid their agenda. The Illuminati was eventually outlawed by the patriotic ruler of Bavaria, Duke Karl-Theodor. He issued 3 edicts against the Illuminati, the third being in 1787. Illuminati writings were discovered after raids of castles and arrests of members. These writings were then translated from old high German by two men. The writings were then published in their works "Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison" and "Memoris illustrating the history of Jacobinsim by Abe Barruel". The writings revealed that the Illuminati wanted a one world system ruled by them. They also wanted the over throw of religion as well as the infiltration of Freemasonry so that they could operate under another name and occupation.
Even president George Washington himself was convinced the Illuminati existed after 1785 when it was outlawed in Bavaria. He corresponded with the reverend G.W. Snyder voicing his concerns about the Illuminati 13 years after they were outlawed in Barvaria, and by 1798 he said outright that the Illuminati had spread to America. "It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am." President George Washington was in fact a Freemason (as have been many other presidents). There are 33 degrees of freemasonry and only the top degrees know any secrets of importance, in fact the lowest degrees are almost complete opposites of what they teach at the higher degrees. The Freemasons also do an excellent job of getting their highly ranked members into extremely important and powerful jobs all over the world. By the way, I am not saying all Freemasons are bad people, but just remember that secrecy is the condition of hiding information from others.

Not all freemasons are bad. It just happens to be that the majority of the elite are high ranking freemasons. All the other freemasons, such as the ones in your local freemason lodge are nothing but cheerleaders for the high ranking freemasons. All the low ranking freemasons are just fools that drink tea with other men dressed in those funny aprons and white gloves going around the community participating in charity events.

Other than that just read what mei wrote. She sure does know her stuff.

Search - "Albert Pike", "Adam Weishaupt" and just continure your research through there..

Actualy(sp?) yes, I did a report on a man who died in the battle of the Alamo. He was a freemason and he left his Masonic apron with his wife and instructed her to display it appropriately if it would aid her survival, but he might not of had one.


(I had to draw a design for him on a alamo outline and I got a fifty. sweatdrop )(I had texas history for seventh grade cuz I live in texas)

i think our president is a freemason

There's alot of controversy surrounding the FreeMasons. Even the Pope said that any FreeMason is in a grave state of sin and unable to take Holy Communion.

I hear they have 33 degrees. 33 is an inportant number in alot of faiths and beliefs. Newton himself made up a new measure of temperature, and the boiling point is 33. People are told that Jesus died at 33. Et cetera.

"All will be revealed in the 33rd Degree."

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