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If an instance/raid is not going the way you planned, what do you do?
  Leave (not worth my time)
  Try again (you get knocked off the horse, get right back on)
  Give those idiots what they deserve (it'd be fine if they weren't here..)
  Try to instruct people (you gotta learn at some point)
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Wee Little

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:59 am


You'd figure WoW would have some kind of message like "You've been on for ____ hours, please take a break" or like that message at the beginning of Final Fantasy "Don't forget it's just a game" or something like that lol.

But out of all of the MMO's I have played (been playing MMOs for 8 years now, and 11 games total), WoW has got to have the highest amount of brats per capita. I find it rather annoying and immature when someone in my party is whining and insulting people because something went wrong or perhaps they aren't living up to one's standards. Perhaps a healer is being cursed with a bunch of debuffs that prevent them from casting their heals or reaching the person they want to heal. Perhaps a Shaman accidentally placed their totems near a group of mobs. Maybe a mage got feared and ran off into a group of mobs. Or maybe someone is just dealing with some sudden lag or distraction. Sometimes people cannot help it, they have little control of the situation, and yes, people will mess up occasionally. It's not like they're doing it on purpose. No one logged into this game and instantly became super pro.

I know, you've invested your money (or your parent's money..) into the game, and spent your precious time on it. But so did everyone else, and no one wants to deal with a cranky irritable person calling them noob, stupid, retarded, idiotic, etc. You can help a noob learn how to fix their mistakes, but it is harder to make a stubborn jerk realize they're being unnecessarily rude. It is just a game, it is not going anywhere, nor are the mobs, gear, bosses, instances, and raids.

I'm not bashing the game, and I'm not saying everyone is like this, but I have noticed a rather large amount of irritable people on this game, it seems there is at least one person like that with each group I'm in. My thread might sound hypocritical, saying I get annoyed by people who get irritated. But honestly... if I'm in a raid, and we wipe, I don't get pissed off, I think "Okay, try again!" Because... that's all you can do, or leave I guess. Even Wintergrasp, I mean sheesh, you're going to lose the fort in 2 hours anyways, why spam raid chat whining about how your faction is going to lose. But instead, I see people getting so worked up and pissed off over it, blaming people, insulting them, being completely rude and disrespectful to people who are probably trying their best. And once someone starts yelling at people, things just go downhill from there. Sure, you might not feel like you're having fun. You could be having fun, but instead, you're ruining everyone else's fun by being disrespectful and rude.

This is a MMO, the ruder you are, the more people will not want to play with you. Thus are you alone... on a MMO... where part of the game is player to player interaction.

I've never blown up on someone while playing WoW. Sure, there were people who weren't very skilled and made careless mistakes, but it doesn't make me any bigger or better than them. They are just as important to the group as I am.

Maybe some of you need to remember that rolleyes I know some of you fall into this category.

This is the one reason why I avoided WoW for so long. It's stereotype is a bunch of dorks who take the game way too seriously. The game itself is great, but I'm noticing an increasing amount of people who seem to be PMSing while they play.

And for the TLDR:

So if you've ever blown up on someone in this game, or even got pissed off while playing. Just remember...

1. IT'S JUST A GAME.
2. No one is perfect.
3. You don't always get it your way.
4. You are not the center of the Universe.
5. It's immature.
6. Chill!
7. Go outside.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:33 am


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You'd figure WoW would have some kind of message like "You've been on for ____ hours, please take a break" or like that message at the beginning of Final Fantasy "Don't forget it's just a game" or something like that lol.

One of the loading screen tips is about playing offline. And they give rested xp when you log off to encourage people to get in the habit of playing a bit then logging off. So they kind of do do that, but they're not overly in your face about it. And I wouldn't expect them to be. You don't see big "GET OFF GAIA" banners when you log in. When you go to Walmart you don't see "DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STUPID CRAP THAT YOU DON'T NEED" banners. Most tv stations don't say "GET OFF THE COUCH AND DO SOMETHING." So I think Blizzard actually is doing more than most companies are in that area.

But I agree with everything else. 3nodding

I don't get angry as long as everyone is trying their best. We all make mistakes. I don't want to get yelled at for an honest mistake, so I try not to yell at anyone else for one.

So I usually only get annoyed with people if they're just plain not trying. For example, people who are consistently late to raids, people who leave raids early whenever they feel like it, people who go in battlegrounds and just sit there to collect honor, people who refuse to do any research on their own and want all information spoon fed to them, etc. Because that's the kind of stuff that is just plain inconsiderate.

I've also noticed some pretty big differences in the amounts of jerks on different servers too though. So never let jerks scare you away from the game. If you have a jerky server, don't be afraid to try a different one! My first server had pretty good progression, lots of mean people. My current server has the same progression, not many mean people! 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:49 am


I'm extremely patient in PVE. I as well have noticed a ton of, "OMG, fail, why me? You're such an idiot.. blah blah" in instances. I usually try to give the person tips if it's a class I know or something obvious like tanking in the wrong place, or going in the wrong direction or something of the sort. If it would need several minutes explaining (and I type pretty fast), then I do just leave. That's just with dungeon finder. If it's in our realm only then I'll try as many times needed till we get it right or till someone else wants to quit.

BG's are a completely different story though. I do admit I get a little out of hand in those I get upset with lack of communication, teaming up, or people fighting in the wrong areas. I never call anyone a "nub" or insult them, but go more like, "come on guys, stop fighting in the middle or in front of their graveyard and just go for the flag already" and stuff like that.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:52 pm


I was running my first Deadmines as a Priest with five other lowbies. Four of them were very patient and sympathetic with my being a newbie healer. There were a couple mass deaths and we began to make little cracks at each other in jest. The final player, our hunter, didn't say anything until we were almost to the ship and asked her to stop running ahead and pulling things until we were done killing the guys already on us (being a factor in several of the prior mass deaths). She proceeded to flip her s**t at us about how we all sucked for not being able to kill anything, when it was her causing the mobs from further ahead to come back and swarm us, and from that point on rolled "need" for every green or higher item we came across, including a cloth item that two of the other players specifically suggested that somebody else in the party be given. It was ridiculous and the final ten minutes of the run were most of us apologizing to each other, except for her, who bolted out the exit and dropped party.

On the other hand, my first Warsong Gulch as the same priest went ridiculously well, and I helped to capture flags by spamming Power Word: Shield on the flag bearer because nobody on the other team seemed to realize that I was the one doing it xd I ran right alongside from the enemy base to our own without being attacked once xd

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Wee Little

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:21 pm


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I'm extremely patient in PVE. I as well have noticed a ton of, "OMG, fail, why me? You're such an idiot.. blah blah" in instances. I usually try to give the person tips if it's a class I know or something obvious like tanking in the wrong place, or going in the wrong direction or something of the sort. If it would need several minutes explaining (and I type pretty fast), then I do just leave. That's just with dungeon finder. If it's in our realm only then I'll try as many times needed till we get it right or till someone else wants to quit.

BG's are a completely different story though. I do admit I get a little out of hand in those I get upset with lack of communication, teaming up, or people fighting in the wrong areas. I never call anyone a "nub" or insult them, but go more like, "come on guys, stop fighting in the middle or in front of their graveyard and just go for the flag already" and stuff like that.


It's common for people to get worked up over those things. But you just got to remember there will be others. And if people just plain out aren't trying, I'm sure you're excused lol. But at least you don't go "OMG YOU NOOBS!!!!1!1!!" which is common on my server -.-;;
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:32 pm


I generally agree with the 'get up and try again' method, but when it comes to 80 heroics, there is no excuse for some of the terrible playing that I've seen. 80 levels is WAY more than enough to learn how to play your class correctly, and Death Knights are faceroll easy anyway. I am tolerant of people who are obviously new 80s and have low quality gear, but when I see people in Triumph badge gear who do less than 1k DPS, it makes me want to reach through the screen and strangle someone. Physical classes auto attack for more than that and a caster, all they have to do is spam their main nuke to do more than that.

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Wee Little

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:25 pm


Eh... to each their own, it's just a game. Skill and being up to par with their gear might not be important to everyone. Just doing and experiencing, which, despite how much people may dislike it, is okay. The game isn't all about the best gear and highest stats. The players make that impression.

And actually... WoW is the fastest leveling game I have ever played (12 total >_<). It doesn't take brains and skills to level to 80, especially with add ons (a WoW luxury) and half the players being DKs ._.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:29 pm


It's where Greedy Goblin brings me therapy, and trying to stick to running randoms with mostly guildmates. whee

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:00 am


So I Was Thinking....



But, Flipping out at everyone when they make a minor mistake is fun D:

Why ruin my dreams man? Why?

crying

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:25 am


But see, that's the problem! Most people AREN'T trying. Most runs where we wipe, it's because the DPS decided to pull or stand in fire, or the tank decides to tank on top of the healer and get them cleaved, or people just ninja-afk for no reason. The excuses I get the most? "lol sorry im high as a kite" "lol srry i tht tank was up here so i pulled 4 him" "lol i didn't kno u weren't supposed to do tht" ... and the list goes on and on :/

Some people just genuinely try and cannot complete an instance, but at this point that should be unheard of. By then you should know your class and know how to gear it, and honestly, if gearing your character is hard still then we are not playing the same game.

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Wee Little

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:41 am


I don't exactly agree with that. Many people are misconstrued with the simplest mistakes. There are gamers of all kinds, who have different goals, priorities, but still have to interact with other players to go about getting them done. WoW isn't just all about this and all about that. You don't even have to be pro at your class, players just set that standard. Just because someone's done something stupid, it doesn't mean they didn't try. Sometimes s**t just happens, you move on. If its repetitive, obviously there's something they don't know. Why not educate them instead of treating them like a retard, which I noticed a lot of players opt to do.. stare

I still say WoW is one of the easiest to level in, compared to the other 11 games I've played. It is possible for people to get to 80 before completely learning about their class, since some classes, such as priests, do not use their classes full potential until 80. My friend got to 80 on their first char in a month, then he did all of his learning. I solo leveled as a holy priest to 80 before I learned I could re-spec and even duo-spec as shadow. It doesn't make me an idiot, I just managed to never come across that option. I don't care really either, I wanted to be a holy priest. If I wanted to DPS, I'd have made a warlock.

I took a two month break from WoW, and I didn't get to see the release of the 3 new instances. So when I came back and was taken into Pit of Saron, I told my party I was not aware of how things went, if there was any tactics or anything I needed to be aware of, to tell me. They didn't warn me of anything, and I got yelled at for not knowing that I had to hide behind the boulder, or that I had to stay behind the final boss. That isn't very fair now is it?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:21 pm


my server has the discrete insulters that fight amongst each other. they make fun of others in party chat if the particular individual is in another group or just argue alittle before a fight. but they know when to get things done and to just shut up and live with it. they are also accepting of new players or, in the case of Ulduar or naxx, players who skipped those raids thanks to ToC and the new ICC 5-mans, and have no clue how the fights work.

the only time i see "OMG!!! YOUR SUCH A NOOB!!!!!11!!1!1!" is in the dungeon finder, and it usually comes from the tank, though dps can be just as bad.

before, i thought my server was bad from reading trade chat, but i soon learned otherwise.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:12 pm


Battle Mistress Beatrix
I don't exactly agree with that. Many people are misconstrued with the simplest mistakes. There are gamers of all kinds, who have different goals, priorities, but still have to interact with other players to go about getting them done. WoW isn't just all about this and all about that. You don't even have to be pro at your class, players just set that standard. Just because someone's done something stupid, it doesn't mean they didn't try. Sometimes s**t just happens, you move on. If its repetitive, obviously there's something they don't know. Why not educate them instead of treating them like a retard, which I noticed a lot of players opt to do.. stare

I still say WoW is one of the easiest to level in, compared to the other 11 games I've played. It is possible for people to get to 80 before completely learning about their class, since some classes, such as priests, do not use their classes full potential until 80. My friend got to 80 on their first char in a month, then he did all of his learning. I solo leveled as a holy priest to 80 before I learned I could re-spec and even duo-spec as shadow. It doesn't make me an idiot, I just managed to never come across that option. I don't care really either, I wanted to be a holy priest. If I wanted to DPS, I'd have made a warlock.

I took a two month break from WoW, and I didn't get to see the release of the 3 new instances. So when I came back and was taken into Pit of Saron, I told my party I was not aware of how things went, if there was any tactics or anything I needed to be aware of, to tell me. They didn't warn me of anything, and I got yelled at for not knowing that I had to hide behind the boulder, or that I had to stay behind the final boss. That isn't very fair now is it?


No, it's not very fair on their part, but on your part you DID warn them. A lot of people don't warn anybody, and just run into an instance thinking it's going to be cake.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:34 pm


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No, it's not very fair on their part, but on your part you DID warn them. A lot of people don't warn anybody, and just run into an instance thinking it's going to be cake.
Eh, I usually warn them AFTER THE FACT. lol I don't really care if someone gets pissed off cause I made a mistake. It's a game. You're mad cause you'll spend a couple more minutes getting back to where you were or because you'll have to spend some virtual currency to repair? With regs and heroics I think those are easy enough to just wing it. It usually IS cake. I think I've only caused a wipe like ONCE for dying because I was standing where I wasn't supposed to and they didn't have the DPS to down the boss without me.

It's different with raids though. I'll actually do some research on the bosses and stuff if I'm going to pug a raid so I don't leave any bad impressions and hopefully be invited to pug again at some point. biggrin

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:19 pm


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No, it's not very fair on their part, but on your part you DID warn them. A lot of people don't warn anybody, and just run into an instance thinking it's going to be cake.
Eh, I usually warn them AFTER THE FACT. lol I don't really care if someone gets pissed off cause I made a mistake. It's a game. You're mad cause you'll spend a couple more minutes getting back to where you were or because you'll have to spend some virtual currency to repair? With regs and heroics I think those are easy enough to just wing it. It usually IS cake. I think I've only caused a wipe like ONCE for dying because I was standing where I wasn't supposed to and they didn't have the DPS to down the boss without me.

It's different with raids though. I'll actually do some research on the bosses and stuff if I'm going to pug a raid so I don't leave any bad impressions and hopefully be invited to pug again at some point. biggrin


Oh I don't mind that either. A wipe doesn't bother me unless for some reason I am pressed for time. Heroics shouldn't be hard, but for a lot of players they are. I don't see WHY, but they just are. I've learned to deal with that, because as a healer I run into endless numbers of them. But there's a difference between wiping because somebody messed up or didn't know, and a wipe where people are just purposely ******** around and making things difficult for everyone else. I left a Heroic Pit of Saron just yesterday because the tank refused to tank, because the only person whose gear score was even in the range of 5k was my own and his. He pulled all the mobs and then ran off to let the DPS tank them down, then spent the time complaining that nobodys gear was good enough. (FYI: It was if he'd just quit bitching and done his job.)

It might just be my battlegroup though. D: Where do you play?
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