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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:22 pm
I know I posted this before, but...I wanna enter the National Guard. I wanna ensure that nobody in my country gets hurt or killed, especially by terrorism.
But...I'm not afraid of getting deployed. I know I'll be helping innocent Iraqis and other people with their terrorism issues.
It's just that...I don't quite think I have the guts to kill anyone, even if that person is a terrorist. Sigh...
I get all guilty, and then I think, "I wonder how that must've felt to him, when I shot him?"
Part of me thinks, "Don't feel sympathy for terrorists! They're bad people, and we need to stop them!"
And the other half of me thinks, "I don't like the terrorists...But killing ANYONE is just not me..."
Like, if I was an FBI cop, let's say, and I had to shoot a man to protect a raped victim, I would do it to hurt him, not to kill him.
Sigh.........I'm just too soft for the military.
EDIT: Also, part of me thinks that the U.S. military is just a brainwashing organizations that brainwashes innocent men and women to kill people overseas that probably have a reason as to why they're killing and terrorizing.
Not to side with the enemy, just being reasonable. Now I don't know if I wanna be a soldier or not.
Then gaians make me feel bad about being an American.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:58 pm
Let me put it to you like this.
1. Joining the military won’t make you an instant bad@##.
2. When you join the military, they teach you how to kill, they don’t teach you whether you should or should not, it’s always up to you.
3. The choice maybe yours, but think of it like this, if they come at you with a weapon, Do you want to go back to the barracks in a body bag, or do you want to go back alive?
4. If you don’t kill the said person, is person going to harm your team?
5. You have to figure out if he’s explosive or not, whether or not he’s not going to think twice about blowing you and your team to kingdom Kong or not.
6. If you can, subdue the person, you’re going to learn close quarters combat, bring some zip ties, and make sure he can’t harm anyone.
7. So all in all, if you don’t have what it takes to shoot a person that breaks in your house and potentially harms or could harm your family, don’t go in the military, at least not infantry.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:51 pm
I'd say don't do infantry. Do something else in the military.
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:19 pm
i know it's kinda shallow of me, but if i don't know them, i could kill someone without thinking twice, it would not effect my life at all, except for getting an adrenaline rush
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:34 pm
Hmm... It's alright to be paranoid about such things as conspiring against the American flag. It's natural to question fear after all, especially what's lurking far from our grasp of knowledge. So for those who do manage to flame you on it, don't take it too much to heart. People comprehend things at different paces, some don't at all so... Don't mind. :B
But first, let me clear some things up:
As there are thousands of jobs that require killing, there are thousands of jobs that do not. I believe, if you wish to recruit into National Guard, don't be afraid to inform them about your intentions. Sure, there would be a decrease in job selections, however, you'd end up a much happier clam.
There's a difference between flat out killing and self-protection. If for one reason or another you were thrust unto a warring, you'd have no choice but to adapt or die. And primal instincts will remain primal... So, I doubt there would be much concern for those you've killed during that 'phase' per say or well... That'd be the least of your concern since you would've already bit the bullet. Shoot or be shot, it's really that simple. ((Though, the concept of self-protection can get really complex now upon hindsight.))
Though, sometimes, if you scour our streets for verbal shrapnel, you'd tend to understand human instincts at a less grandeur scale. ((How many times in a fierce argument have you cared about the opposite factions feelings and concerns? You'll probably find out that you're more selfish then you think. It's good though, after all, we're only human.*Clarification:* I don't mean this in a way to justify the fact of murder but in contemporary life of a young adult, there is no greater life then the life that you own. Those who fall out of this order, please try and understand the scenario at hand.*))
[IMO:Though, in the military, I've always seen training as means of survival then a utility for slaughter. Sure, in a darker shade of light, it is what it is no denying it... However, if you're going into combat you'll need to know much more then how to point and click. Sure you're still killing people but there's method to the madness. (E.G. Advanced Boy-scouts for the iron-willed.)]
However on the flip side, bleeding hearts (Such as myself.) would definitely agree with your ideals about manslaughter. (Self defense or not, blood is pretty hard to wash off regardless.) Since we all reside on the same terrestrial level, we'd question the importance of the lives that we forcibly take away. (I remember as a wee lass, I was terrified when a some girls picked flowers because they were technically decapitating them. Frankly, I was sensitive.) We tend to live under the blanket of, "Yes, they're 'bad' people but they're people none the less. They have reasons, beliefs, and resolutions that are not right but they sure as hell aren't wrong either." Such things like the aforementioned rapist, who might have suffered more social trauma that no one gives an ear for or even some one who's afraid can have something horrible lurking in the dark corners of their psyche. Do they deserve a bullet in their head because no one seems to care? Some may agree, some may not. Whatever the case is, as human beings, we do what is in our best judgment whenever it is sinful or not. Of course, there are repercussions through the opinions of others but words of wisdom tend to fall short to those experiencing the real thing.
And as painful as it is to be gridlocked Dr. Bullets, you're very fortunate in finding this dilemma sooner off then later. I've heard one story too many about mentally shell-shocked soldiers. Steeling your conscious now will only help you on your path.
((Though, I do wish that there was a more pacifist way of solving issues such as these... It is pretty much impossible to achieve in our time and mind. Now that I think about it, we're pretty much modernized headhunters.))
All in all, I do agree with you for the most part and if you wish not to, there is no reason why you should push yourself into a sense of self loathing for that reason. Judging life is hard for those who truly love it and if you wish not to take up arms for the never-ending pursuit for peace then that is just another turnpike in life to detour. There are other ways to support your country if you feel the need to. After all, you can be a soldier in more ways then one.
If you find a purpose you wish the walk aside then take this quote to heart:
"Small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Best of luck, Doctor Bullets.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:25 am
You're not the only one who can't enter into service. I wanted to be a pilot for the longest time, however I'm 4F, it's impossible for me to even get a commercial pilots license, so I'm screwed.
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:15 pm
Mektju Hmm... It's alright to be paranoid about such things as conspiring against the American flag. It's natural to question fear after all, especially what's lurking far from our grasp of knowledge. So for those who do manage to flame you on it, don't take it too much to heart. People comprehend things at different paces, some don't at all so... Don't mind. :B
But first, let me clear some things up:
As there are thousands of jobs that require killing, there are thousands of jobs that do not. I believe, if you wish to recruit into National Guard, don't be afraid to inform them about your intentions. Sure, there would be a decrease in job selections, however, you'd end up a much happier clam.
There's a difference between flat out killing and self-protection. If for one reason or another you were thrust unto a warring, you'd have no choice but to adapt or die. And primal instincts will remain primal... So, I doubt there would be much concern for those you've killed during that 'phase' per say or well... That'd be the least of your concern since you would've already bit the bullet. Shoot or be shot, it's really that simple. ((Though, the concept of self-protection can get really complex now upon hindsight.))
Though, sometimes, if you scour our streets for verbal shrapnel, you'd tend to understand human instincts at a less grandeur scale. ((How many times in a fierce argument have you cared about the opposite factions feelings and concerns? You'll probably find out that you're more selfish then you think. It's good though, after all, we're only human.*Clarification:* I don't mean this in a way to justify the fact of murder but in contemporary life of a young adult, there is no greater life then the life that you own. Those who fall out of this order, please try and understand the scenario at hand.*))
[IMO:Though, in the military, I've always seen training as means of survival then a utility for slaughter. Sure, in a darker shade of light, it is what it is no denying it... However, if you're going into combat you'll need to know much more then how to point and click. Sure you're still killing people but there's method to the madness. (E.G. Advanced Boy-scouts for the iron-willed.)]
However on the flip side, bleeding hearts (Such as myself.) would definitely agree with your ideals about manslaughter. (Self defense or not, blood is pretty hard to wash off regardless.) Since we all reside on the same terrestrial level, we'd question the importance of the lives that we forcibly take away. (I remember as a wee lass, I was terrified when a some girls picked flowers because they were technically decapitating them. Frankly, I was sensitive.) We tend to live under the blanket of, "Yes, they're 'bad' people but they're people none the less. They have reasons, beliefs, and resolutions that are not right but they sure as hell aren't wrong either." Such things like the aforementioned rapist, who might have suffered more social trauma that no one gives an ear for or even some one who's afraid can have something horrible lurking in the dark corners of their psyche. Do they deserve a bullet in their head because no one seems to care? Some may agree, some may not. Whatever the case is, as human beings, we do what is in our best judgment whenever it is sinful or not. Of course, there are repercussions through the opinions of others but words of wisdom tend to fall short to those experiencing the real thing.
And as painful as it is to be gridlocked Dr. Bullets, you're very fortunate in finding this dilemma sooner off then later. I've heard one story too many about mentally shell-shocked soldiers. Steeling your conscious now will only help you on your path.
((Though, I do wish that there was a more pacifist way of solving issues such as these... It is pretty much impossible to achieve in our time and mind. Now that I think about it, we're pretty much modernized headhunters.))
All in all, I do agree with you for the most part and if you wish not to, there is no reason why you should push yourself into a sense of self loathing for that reason. Judging life is hard for those who truly love it and if you wish not to take up arms for the never-ending pursuit for peace then that is just another turnpike in life to detour. There are other ways to support your country if you feel the need to. After all, you can be a soldier in more ways then one.
If you find a purpose you wish the walk aside then take this quote to heart:
"Small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Best of luck, Doctor Bullets. Thanks. smile It's just...I can't stand terrorists. It's just that, all the hatred I feel for them extinguishes when I think about how they have their own beliefs (even though their beliefs are wrong), and how our gov sends out our troops to kill those people for simply believing something. It'd be like killing a transexual just for getting a sex change.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:19 pm
You know if you still wanna join the military you could do something that doesn't involve being out on the field. You could be a medic or a mechanic. That way you wouldn't have to worry about killing anybody.
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:05 pm
Doctor Bullets Thanks. smile It's just...I can't stand terrorists. It's just that, all the hatred I feel for them extinguishes when I think about how they have their own beliefs (even though their beliefs are wrong), and how our gov sends out our troops to kill those people for simply believing something. It'd be like killing a transexual just for getting a sex change. Haha, I understand your sympathies about their culture since--- well, it's what they sincerely consider is the way to live an honest to goodness life. To even hold that belief beyond the concept of death... It's a frightful ordeal that can't be helped. It's not like you can force them to perceive things under a different concave when they hold such a zealous outlook. I overall, don't believe such a thing as a wrong belief. Whenever it be in desperation or just devout faith, a belief is just (Like you've hinted) an opinion. It's not right or wrong, it's a way of life.
There's no need to put a word a strong as 'hate' into a scenario such as this. Confusion or miscommunication would be more accurate. That might be the reason why your feelings wane as they do. And if that would be the case, then why let it trouble you so? In a world where you are either defined a distinguished figure or a nameless face, you tread your own path and carve the road with your own feet. If that is what you truly believe and stand by it then so be it. Consequences will follow, be it good or bad.
Revising what I just wrote I've noticed something. It's a small world, even when such things as Terrorism and Government are shrouded in an endless bog of mystery... Sometimes, you tend to see that not all things are what they seem and that some things are closer then they appear. (Hah, side view mirrors.) We're all humans after all and there's only a few set of emotions to cover all of the opinions we devise.
Human conflict paves the way to solutions and we have the power of free will to justify it. Just know that inevitably, people will die by something as simple as an opinion. It's been marked through years of blood and having it stop will be more of a sacrilege then a blessing. (Hell, people have been beating each other over the head on things not based on reality. Or on a more metaphysical scale then what we're discussing about.)
The matter at hand is, what is it that you believe? More importantly, where do you stand in this rat race called life? You will be ridiculed. You will be mocked. You will be shunned. But how will you respond? Honestly? Scathingly? Doubtingly?
Whenever you shout it to the Heavens or let it sleep deep inside your subconscious, if you are happy with what you believe in... Then that is all that matters, isn't it?
You are a voice too. Please, don't ever forget that. :]
@Solana, Yeap, I'm heading off to be a Mech/Elec myself. The simple concept of 'Guns don't kill people, other people do' is enough to put my mind at ease. Though you might want to be a bit finicky when it comes to being a medic or anything that requires nursing or the like. They might try to ship you off if you're not careful.
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