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 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:17 pm
Please don't hate me for this but I'm laughing it up right now that, that happened. That's just wicked funny that something like that happened, Damn are important leaders security teams suck now adays I mean some guy was able to take off both his shoes throw them at President Bush and walk away b4 the C.I.A came out and took him down and now the Pope who's security is probably equivalent to the President's Security got tackled to the ground by some random woman and they didn't do anything to stop her? Do people know how security guards work anymore?? I hope both people are ok and that she aint excommunicated unless she isnt in anyway shape or form Christian cause then it don't really matter if your excommunicated like you would go to church anyways lol. I'm srry u can say u hate me or w/e just its a funny story. Imagine the News Headline "Pope Tackled by Crazed Follower" oh man that's just too funny. Anyway on a serious note I hope everyone who ended up in the hospital for that incident is fine and everything but come one its a funny story.
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:19 pm
I know, right? What's up with the security industry?!
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:26 pm
Semiremis Jewelshard69 Semiremis Jewelshard69 rmcdra Of course he's sexy. Just look at all the phallic imagery he displays xd . On a more serious note. If she's probably going to be excommunicated because not mistaken, attacking a priest, Bishop, or Pope is pretty much an automatic excommunication but they might make special concessions if she's mentally unstable. Ha! Roman Catholics don't care if your mentally unstable. The ONLY reason they might not excommunicate her is because of the publicity. Why do you say that? Because the Roman Catholic church has rules that go back centuries. They live by those rules. They don't like change. It is tradition based. So to overlook what appears to be a direct attack on the Pope and to pardon her even if she is mentally unbalanced would be an affront to that tradition that they cling to. Like I said, if they do it it will be because to excommunicate a mentally retarded person will bring controversy from the general population around the world. Tradition is most definitely a large part of the Church but what the Church teaches isn't in agreement with the statements you are making and if you believe that the practice of taking into consideration the mental health of the individual is only a product of concern for PR then I'm going to have to ask you for proof otherwise it's nothing more then your opinion and it should be stated as such. CCC 1735 Imputability and responsibility for an action can be diminished or even nullified by ignorance, inadvertence, duress, fear, habit, inordinate attachments, and other psychological or social factors.to be quite honest, i did not know about that particular clause. i am not completely versed in the Catholic faith, and was speaking out of personal opinion. i am sorry if i offended anyone, i was only speaking about what i knew. I didnt know that the church made any allowances for mentally handicapped individuals.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:42 pm
Jewelshard69 Semiremis Jewelshard69 Semiremis Jewelshard69 rmcdra Of course he's sexy. Just look at all the phallic imagery he displays xd . On a more serious note. If she's probably going to be excommunicated because not mistaken, attacking a priest, Bishop, or Pope is pretty much an automatic excommunication but they might make special concessions if she's mentally unstable. Ha! Roman Catholics don't care if your mentally unstable. The ONLY reason they might not excommunicate her is because of the publicity. Why do you say that? Because the Roman Catholic church has rules that go back centuries. They live by those rules. They don't like change. It is tradition based. So to overlook what appears to be a direct attack on the Pope and to pardon her even if she is mentally unbalanced would be an affront to that tradition that they cling to. Like I said, if they do it it will be because to excommunicate a mentally retarded person will bring controversy from the general population around the world. Tradition is most definitely a large part of the Church but what the Church teaches isn't in agreement with the statements you are making and if you believe that the practice of taking into consideration the mental health of the individual is only a product of concern for PR then I'm going to have to ask you for proof otherwise it's nothing more then your opinion and it should be stated as such. CCC 1735 Imputability and responsibility for an action can be diminished or even nullified by ignorance, inadvertence, duress, fear, habit, inordinate attachments, and other psychological or social factors.to be quite honest, i did not know about that particular clause. i am not completely versed in the Catholic faith, and was speaking out of personal opinion. i am sorry if i offended anyone, i was only speaking about what i knew. I didnt know that the church made any allowances for mentally handicapped individuals. I don't think you understand what the meaing of excommunication means. When you excommunicated it doesn't mean there is no possibility for you to return. God is a merciful God and if you repent and are truly sorry for what you have done then you are able to return to him. Pope John Paul II was shot and even though the man that shot him was not Catholic you'd think he'd never be allowed near the Pope again and there was no hope fo him. You'd be wrong. Pope John Paul II went to visit that man in prison and forgave him for what he had done. He gave him a confession and would you believe it that same man was allowed to be present at Pope John Paul II's funeral. So this woman will not be excommunicated.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:52 am
ILuvR0L0S Jewelshard69 Semiremis Jewelshard69 Because the Roman Catholic church has rules that go back centuries. They live by those rules. They don't like change. It is tradition based. So to overlook what appears to be a direct attack on the Pope and to pardon her even if she is mentally unbalanced would be an affront to that tradition that they cling to. Like I said, if they do it it will be because to excommunicate a mentally retarded person will bring controversy from the general population around the world. Tradition is most definitely a large part of the Church but what the Church teaches isn't in agreement with the statements you are making and if you believe that the practice of taking into consideration the mental health of the individual is only a product of concern for PR then I'm going to have to ask you for proof otherwise it's nothing more then your opinion and it should be stated as such. CCC 1735 Imputability and responsibility for an action can be diminished or even nullified by ignorance, inadvertence, duress, fear, habit, inordinate attachments, and other psychological or social factors.to be quite honest, i did not know about that particular clause. i am not completely versed in the Catholic faith, and was speaking out of personal opinion. i am sorry if i offended anyone, i was only speaking about what i knew. I didnt know that the church made any allowances for mentally handicapped individuals. I don't think you understand what the meaing of excommunication means. When you excommunicated it doesn't mean there is no possibility for you to return. God is a merciful God and if you repent and are truly sorry for what you have done then you are able to return to him. Pope John Paul II was shot and even though the man that shot him was not Catholic you'd think he'd never be allowed near the Pope again and there was no hope fo him. You'd be wrong. Pope John Paul II went to visit that man in prison and forgave him for what he had done. He gave him a confession and would you believe it that same man was allowed to be present at Pope John Paul II's funeral. So this woman will not be excommunicated. *Nods* I'm glad you pointed that out! I think a lot of people hold the misconception that the Church is condemning people and that there is no hope for them. Well that isn't the case and they most certainly may be welcomed back into the fold in the future. The example with JPII is a good one and especially relevant to this topic.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:49 pm
it would become lonely to always be surrounded by the hermetical seal of security.
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