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 Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:33 pm
Metaphysics?! Alrighty then! I believe that if time travel were possible, I would become a fatalist. If I decide to go back in time and, say, assassinate Hitler, I've already failed. If I had succeeded, he wouldn't be there for me to assassinate. Thus changing the past is impossible. Fortunately, I don't believe that the past or future exists. Hell, it's too late to be philosophizing, it's 11:28. Challenge my arguments in the morning. Yuan Zi Knight My theory, it's a cyclic idea, in which you'd eliminate your own presence, yet not. Because you wouldn't exist to cause the change, the change would simply not happen and you'd be stuck in an infinite loop of existing normally, going back in time and trying to force a change, and then simply not existing. Anyway, part of the reason I wouldn't go back and introduce steam-tech is because there wouldn't be internet, music and art would be drastically different, and socially, things would likely be far more anti-GBLT than they are now. Plus, you know, without going this far with technology, the human race would have never learned how much we can mess up one planet. That's a costly, but ever-so-valuable lesson. Your ideas are fascinating, could you elaborate? Why would we be less tolerant, and why do you think we wouldn't have realized that we were screwing up the environment? I think technology would still have progressed, just in a different way. We wouldn't have the internet, but maybe the Teslanet could have succeeded. wink
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:56 pm
No way. I would go and experience many different times, but not in a way that would significantly change anything.
Besides, I expect that something like Yuan Zi describes would happen.
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:21 pm
Some events are fixed, while others are open gates.YOU must not changed fixed events, it can create a paradox....or worst...destroy time itself..
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:11 am
Maggoty Anne Metaphysics?! Alrighty then! I believe that if time travel were possible, I would become a fatalist. If I decide to go back in time and, say, assassinate Hitler, I've already failed. If I had succeeded, he wouldn't be there for me to assassinate. Thus changing the past is impossible. Fortunately, I don't believe that the past or future exists. Hell, it's too late to be philosophizing, it's 11:28. Challenge my arguments in the morning. Yuan Zi Knight My theory, it's a cyclic idea, in which you'd eliminate your own presence, yet not. Because you wouldn't exist to cause the change, the change would simply not happen and you'd be stuck in an infinite loop of existing normally, going back in time and trying to force a change, and then simply not existing. Anyway, part of the reason I wouldn't go back and introduce steam-tech is because there wouldn't be internet, music and art would be drastically different, and socially, things would likely be far more anti-GBLT than they are now. Plus, you know, without going this far with technology, the human race would have never learned how much we can mess up one planet. That's a costly, but ever-so-valuable lesson. Your ideas are fascinating, could you elaborate? Why would we be less tolerant, and why do you think we wouldn't have realized that we were screwing up the environment? I think technology would still have progressed, just in a different way. We wouldn't have the internet, but maybe the Teslanet could have succeeded. wink
I would assume we'd be more intolerant because we may still be running on Victorian ideals of a superior west and everyone else being, well, barbaric. I also assume that sexuality would still be oppressed and we'd still be using (good lord) male chastity belts with sharp spikes. I shudder to think, and I also must make a note that when I think of such horrible things, I wince and mentally check to see if everything's okay.
Although it could be quite the opposite, even more open and accepting than now. THAT would be interesting.
I would imagine things would be quite different. Perhaps through using steam instead of the electric grid we do now, the world may not have been such a horrible mess of unnaturally provoked acid rain. However, in our given day, we have destroyed many things, but through our technology, we are able to see what we have done; hence a double-sided blade.
I would love to imagine a steampunk version of the internet. Well, instead of it being wires, electricity, and servers, it might have actually been a series of tubes. smile
Disclaimer: This may not make sense. Bed, need, now.
I hope you have fun erasing my post style, though.
John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway. John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships daddy." Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS" There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons. "This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the demons!" So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall. "HE GOING TO KILL US" said the demons "I will shoot at him" said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill. "No! I must kill the demons" he shouted The radio said "No, John. You are the demons" And then John was a zombie.
对了就是那个臭男孩
That's right, that jerk.
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