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General Gamer

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:48 pm


in my last duel me and my friend kept on arguing about how a trap card that negates the attack of a attacking monster with a effect that causes it not to be targeted by spells, traps, and monsters. if a monster has this effect can its atk still be negated?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:05 pm


I don't think the trap work.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:28 pm


if a monster has a self-protection effect, its attacks can still be negated, since the trap is targeting the ATTACK, not the MONSTER.

example:
PLAYER A activates Negate Attack against PLAYER B'S Tyrant Dragon (which negates any trap that targets it). since Negate Attack stops the attack, Tyrant Dragon's attack will be stopped by Negate Attack and the battle phase ends

hope this clarifies things for ya =P
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:46 pm


xxxrandallxxx
if a monster has a self-protection effect, its attacks can still be negated, since the trap is targeting the ATTACK, not the MONSTER.
Incorrect.

If a monster has an effect preventing you from targeting it or another monster through Spells and Traps, there are Traps that target the monster through battle(Sakuretsu Armor, Dimensional Prison, Magic Cylinder, etc.). Cards such as these cannot be used in response to any monster with such an effect.

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RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:39 am


Jazzy Zeig
xxxrandallxxx
if a monster has a self-protection effect, its attacks can still be negated, since the trap is targeting the ATTACK, not the MONSTER.
Incorrect.

If a monster has an effect preventing you from targeting it or another monster through Spells and Traps, there are Traps that target the monster through battle(Sakuretsu Armor, Dimensional Prison, Magic Cylinder, etc.). Cards such as these cannot be used in response to any monster with such an effect.

well, i know about those traps, i meant ones that stop just the attacks, thats all
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:06 am


xxxrandallxxx
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xxxrandallxxx
if a monster has a self-protection effect, its attacks can still be negated, since the trap is targeting the ATTACK, not the MONSTER.
Incorrect.

If a monster has an effect preventing you from targeting it or another monster through Spells and Traps, there are Traps that target the monster through battle(Sakuretsu Armor, Dimensional Prison, Magic Cylinder, etc.). Cards such as these cannot be used in response to any monster with such an effect.

well, i know about those traps, i meant ones that stop just the attacks, thats all


negate attack targets the attacking monster, so if the attacking monster is tagetted it's negated, if it's not it resolves and even the monster that is immune/ negates traps that target can no longer attack because negate attack just ended the battle phase. poor example randall.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:43 am


so basicaly the only traps that can work on..lets say Wildheart.. besides the traps that activate before its summoned..
are skilldrain?..

you cant negate attack or sakuretsu it..

but you can threatening roar it seeing how it just stops the battle phase.. i mean prevents the battle phase...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:46 am


The_Legendary_Zaku
so basicaly the only traps that can work on..lets say Wildheart.. besides the traps that activate before its summoned..
are skilldrain?..

you cant negate attack or sakuretsu it..

but you can threatening roar it seeing how it just stops the battle phase.. i mean prevents the battle phase...
Skill Drain will only negate it's effect if already active when Wildheart is summoned.

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The_Wicked_Zaku

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:15 am


i know.. it was just an example..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:56 pm


well the threatning works since he isn't targeted, but I think he could also fall to mirror force or other cards that target mass and not 1 monster....

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:07 pm


Sasori00923
well the threatning works since he isn't targeted, but I think he could also fall to mirror force or other cards that target mass and not 1 monster....
Mirror Force wouldn't affect him. Threatening Roar affects the players ability to play cards and not an individual monster.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:10 pm


why wouldn't mirror force affect him? it doesn't target 1 monster on the field, it just decimates all of th face up ones if any other 1 should attack

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:12 pm


Sasori00923
why wouldn't mirror force affect him? it doesn't target 1 monster on the field, it just decimates all of th face up ones if any other 1 should attack
He's unaffected by Trap Effects, not Trap targets as you seem to believe.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:14 pm


you do make a point cause the effect of it would destroy it or hinder him, damn....that would be very annoying

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