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dl1371

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:29 pm


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On a very small scale (like a single village or extended family), communism works fantastically well. Once you try to boost that system up to an entire country, or even the world, the system breaks down. It's the same way with democracy. With a small group of people, it's easy to reason with a small minority and come up with something everyone can agree on. But when you're talking about millions or billions of people, the "minority" that dissents is still a HUGE number of people, and that causes a lot of strife in the country.


^ yeah i think if it was a small scale then yeah, but the U.S is too big for that. I do think communism might work if there wasn't a dictator in charge of it.

The Communist Manifesto says nothing about a dictator in any part of it
also,
most communist countries are not supposed to be dictatorships
look up Soviet Democracy

Exactly; true utopian communism implies a lack of a state. Again, the Russians weren't communists.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:01 pm


alteregoivy
On a very small scale (like a single village or extended family), communism works fantastically well. Once you try to boost that system up to an entire country, or even the world, the system breaks down. It's the same way with democracy. With a small group of people, it's easy to reason with a small minority and come up with something everyone can agree on. But when you're talking about millions or billions of people, the "minority" that dissents is still a HUGE number of people, and that causes a lot of strife in the country.

to dispel a common myth about communism,
the "slogan" is "Every man to his needs, every man to his abilities"
that does NOT mean, "Let other people do the work for you"
the way i see it,
the idea, is that if you do less than you are able to, then you dont get as much
the only problem i see, is measuring peoples abilities, which would still be fairly easy

dl1371


alteregoivy

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:08 am


Another supposedly communist nation that isn't really and never was: China. The funny thing is that back in the McCarthy era when people were afraid of communism taking over the world, they didn't understand that China and Russia were NEVER going to team up because they hated each other and had opposing philosophies. We really didn't need to worry so much as we did.

China as a communist state is actually a Legalist state. Legalism was one of the three major philosophies to come out of ancient China, along with Confucianism and Taoism.

Legalism basically states that if you are not a farmer, soldier, or ruler, your job is useless. That's why there was the big cultural revolution: Legalism took over, and anything marked as culture was deemed unnecessary and distracting from the cause. To me, it's a terribly violent and sad philosophy.
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