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 Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:03 pm
Sauvie LorienLlewellyn I do agree that it's sort of hypocritical that marijuana is illegal when tobacco cigarettes and alcohol are legal though. They all cause health issues, so I'm not really sure why we differentiate between the three. This is something I have always pondered my self. Alcohol intoxicates people to the point of deaths, acts that kill and well liver failure. Tobacco just ravages the lungs. only big difference I can fathom is the high you get from pot, but honestly that seems completely minuscule different wise when people die from all 3 either directly or influenced. Yea.. First though, you do realize no one has died from Marijuana use directly, like from just ingesting/inhaling it for many years. The question just keeps going in my head. The government wants money, right? They are wasting money by arresting, prosecuting and housing, Marijuana users, owners and sellers, correct? Question: "Why not decriminalize and consider that a appropriate cut in the proper section of prisoners? And then turn it in the taxing favor and regulate it to make money?" I think at the very less, we need it available for medical practices at the least in all 50 states. All Medical drugs have draw backs, so what is to worry about allowing Marijuana in the medical field?
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:07 pm
I think that if alcohol and tobacco are legal, then marijuana should be, too. Cops in California don't even care about it. They'll catch you with it and just let you go, because they have more serious drugs to worry about. (My cousin's boyfriend is a policeman in Long Beach).
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:45 pm
!namorata (My cousin's boyfriend is a policeman in Long Beach). What's his thoughts on it? If your not sure, you should ask him sometime. I wanted to hear a officer's opinion off radio, cause I know if they say what they think on radio, they could get fired if what they say is in any shape or form for approving of any illegal activity. Cause then they could say they are not fit for duty.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:17 pm
Yeah, it's illegal in New York of course. But people usually get a slap to the wrist here too. Sometimes the police just let them go to begin with.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:47 pm
Valgex Yea.. First though, you do realize no one has died from Marijuana use directly, like from just ingesting/inhaling it for many years Well regardless of me being in a bad mood this statement annoys me a lot man, not to sound like I am being hostile or not, again, I am never going to be unbias on the subject, but how can you say that statement, thats like saying Guns have never killed anyone directly because you have to put bullets in and pull a trigger and Aim and all that stuff. Pot when inhaled may not be lethal, but it messes with the mind and senses enough to cause idiotic, reckless or deadly actions, so saying that smoking too much pot does not kill anyone directly is a freaking cop out man.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:24 pm
Sauvie Valgex Yea.. First though, you do realize no one has died from Marijuana use directly, like from just ingesting/inhaling it for many years Pot when inhaled may not be lethal, but it messes with the mind and senses enough to cause idiotic, reckless or deadly actions, so saying that smoking too much pot does not kill anyone directly is a freaking cop out man. I think you meant you'll never be Biased on the subject. Saying your not going to be unbiased means you'll be biased on the subject. This is true and not true at the same time though. For Alcohol users, it is usually always true. Unlike Alcohol, Marijuana is not the same for everyone else, some get freaked out and never want to do it again, some love it and the feeling and play it safe, it's basically how your personality is set up I suppose. It's not that it causes idiotic behavior, it's more that their responses are slower, their mind is going backwards, forward, flash backs, that kind of stuff. Trust me, I know, I've experienced the effects a few times now. Those days were pretty bad and I decided to do it to calm down and I felt very good and slept very well. But no one has yet to answer the more important question at hand I was wondering about, the number I provided on my first post. Supposably once a million or more have called and voted, a proposal will be drawn out and sent to Obama and that he'd consider some Marijuana change that he promised back in 2004 for decriminalization.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:14 pm
I don't know anything about it, as I'm Canadian and I didn't follow American politics back in 2004.
And actually, alcohol affects people differently much like marijuana does. I've known people who smoked pot recreationally and were fine doing only a little here and there, and I had a best friend in high school who admitted to me straight out that she was hooked, couldn't stop, and it ended up being a gateway drug for her to other things like E and cocaine.
I've never been drunk, but when I've had alcohol, I often get happy and chatty. I laugh a lot. Eventually I get sleepy. I know people who drink lots of alcohol and due to what I'm guessing are high tolerance levels, are fine. I know some people who can only have a little before they have to stop, and others who can have a few drinks before they start to feel drunk.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:08 pm
Nikolita I don't know anything about it, as I'm Canadian and I didn't follow American politics back in 2004. And actually, alcohol affects people differently much like marijuana does. I've known people who smoked pot recreationally and were fine doing only a little here and there, and I had a best friend in high school who admitted to me straight out that she was hooked, couldn't stop, and it ended up being a gateway drug for her to other things like E and cocaine. Your friend was hooked??? She must have had a addicted personality, or the stuff that she had, had something else in there, that shouldn't have been in there to make it addicting. (Someone could have easily laced it with something else). I don't understand. I've just never been addicted to anything and I don't believe I could ever be. Caffeine is not addictive to me, Tobacco isn't, cause I can't even stand the smell alone cause it makes me nauseous. Marijuana is no exception to me, don't get me wrong, it sure makes me feel good, but I've turned down more offers than ones I've accepted, because I don't like to always experience the effects, because I'm just not in the mood or need of it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:27 pm
I can see how someone could get addicted. After all, people can be addicted to video games, computers, sex, etc. Anything that gets your mind to release those "feel good" chemicals can become addictive.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:37 pm
Valgex What's his thoughts on it? If your not sure, you should ask him sometime. I wanted to hear a officer's opinion off radio, cause I know if they say what they think on radio, they could get fired if what they say is in any shape or form for approving of any illegal activity. Cause then they could say they are not fit for duty. Pretty much what I said about how California cops treat weed, is what he told me. He said they could really care less. They'll catch you with it in your car, and be like whatever. Usually let you go. I think marijuana being a gateway drug is a reasonable argument. I've been smoking about once a week for 3 months, and I want to try E. Before I never had any urges to try any sort of drug. It could just be that I am more curious now than I used to be, but I think experiencing a high contributed.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:06 pm
!namorata Valgex What's his thoughts on it? If your not sure, you should ask him sometime. I wanted to hear a officer's opinion off radio, cause I know if they say what they think on radio, they could get fired if what they say is in any shape or form for approving of any illegal activity. Cause then they could say they are not fit for duty. Pretty much what I said about how California cops treat weed, is what he told me. He said they could really care less. They'll catch you with it in your car, and be like whatever. Usually let you go. I think marijuana being a gateway drug is a reasonable argument. I've been smoking about once a week for 3 months, and I want to try E. Before I never had any urges to try any sort of drug. It could just be that I am more curious now than I used to be, but I think experiencing a high contributed. I believe it's more of a curiosity thing and which leads people to believe Marijuana to be a gate way drug, but that isn't the case. But you should end your curiosity by telling yourself those are the actual drugs that can kill. LorienLlewellyn I can see how someone could get addicted. After all, people can be addicted to video games, computers, sex, etc. Anything that gets your mind to release those "feel good" chemicals can become addictive. Agreed, but those who can't over come that, will first look to what they put in their body and decide to blame it on that, before blaming it on their personality. Playing video games a lot=lazy caused from Marijuana(people conclude then Marijuana makes you lazy)
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:12 pm
Valgex I believe it's more of a curiosity thing and which leads people to believe Marijuana to be a gate way drug, but that isn't the case. But you should end your curiosity by telling yourself those are the actual drugs that can kill. I've looked into E and the worst it would probably do to you (unless taken regularly) would be to make you feel down for a couple weeks. There's always a chance that it could be laced with something else, but it's not something I intend to do more than once.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:12 pm
!namorata I think marijuana being a gateway drug is a reasonable argument. I've been smoking about once a week for 3 months, and I want to try E. Before I never had any urges to try any sort of drug. It could just be that I am more curious now than I used to be, but I think experiencing a high contributed. I think a lot people go through exactly that or darn close to it. A lot of people are curious about drugs. They're kind of scared to try it for the first time. They usually try marijuana first. Then they sort of think, "Ok, that wasn't hard to get, it wasn't hard to do, it didn't kill me, I didn't get in trouble." That takes some of the fear away. And that makes them more open to trying another drug. Obviously that's just a generalization and it doesn't happen for everyone exactly that way. But it is a very common experience. And that is why marijuana gets called a gateway drug.
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:16 pm
LorienLlewellyn !namorata I think marijuana being a gateway drug is a reasonable argument. I've been smoking about once a week for 3 months, and I want to try E. Before I never had any urges to try any sort of drug. It could just be that I am more curious now than I used to be, but I think experiencing a high contributed. I think a lot people go through exactly that or darn close to it. A lot of people are curious about drugs. They're kind of scared to try it for the first time. They usually try marijuana first. Then they sort of think, "Ok, that wasn't hard to get, it wasn't hard to do, it didn't kill me, I didn't get in trouble." That takes some of the fear away. And that makes them more open to trying another drug. Obviously that's just a generalization and it doesn't happen for everyone exactly that way. But it is a very common experience. And that is why marijuana gets called a gateway drug. That about sums it up actually. I was a little nervous the first time and my first time, was the strongest sutff and it lasted me a bit in the next day when I woke up, it was great. My fear that'd it'd do physical and mental damage weakened and I've yet to experience anything, but yet I rarely do it too. This is a good website to hear arguments, statistics, etc about Marijuana: http://norml.org/(I've looked over ToS and I don't see a violation issue on this link, but if I missed something, please edit my post immediately, thank you)
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