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Takeda Keita

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:31 pm


I am curios about rulings regarding the use of cards that are special summoned after your opponent declares an attack.
ie: A Hero Emerges, A Rival Appears, and even monsters such as the new Dark Neosphere

I have three specific questions that i wish to be answered:

After the card is special summoned, assuming your opponent was attacking you directly, does the monster attacking you attack the newly summoned monster? Or does the attack get negated and it then becomes your opponents choice to attack or not to attack?

The other ruling i was curios about pretained to flips that occur during your opponents battle phase.
ie: oppents attacks monster is flipped, but def too high to be destroyed.

Can your opponent activate Trap Hole on this def posistion card if it meets Trap Hole's conditions?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:46 pm


Takeda Keita
I am curios about rulings regarding the use of cards that are special summoned after your opponent declares an attack.
ie: A Hero Emerges, A Rival Appears, and even monsters such as the new Dark Neosphere

I have three specific questions that i wish to be answered:

After the card is special summoned, assuming your opponent was attacking you directly, does the monster attacking you attack the newly summoned monster? Or does the attack get negated and it then becomes your opponents choice to attack or not to attack?

The other ruling i was curios about pretained to flips that occur during your opponents battle phase.
ie: oppents attacks monster is flipped, but def too high to be destroyed.

Can your opponent activate Trap Hole on this def posistion card if it meets Trap Hole's conditions?

When a player attacks and the number of attack targets on the other player's field changes, a replay occurs. during a replay, the attacking player can then choose to attack a new target, attack the same target(if it still exists), or recall the attack. if the attack is recalled, that monster cannot attack again that same battle phase(unless it has multiple attacks). That monster is still considered to have attacked.
In your example, if a monster was summoned in response to a direct attack, the attacking player would have the option of attack ing the new target or recalling the attack.

Monsters that get attacked while set flip over at the start of the damage step. This is not a form of summoning so trap hole and bottomless trap hole cannot be played since they require the monster to be summoned in order to trigger.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:52 pm


you can't use trap hole on special summons at all. if your talking about bottomless, you can activate it on any special summon as long as:

A. it has more than 1400 atk
B. it is outside damage calculation (so a monster that is attacked while face down cant be trap holed or bottomlessed)
C. it is normal summoned or flip summoned or special summoned, not flipped (you can't trap hole a monster flipped by cards like book of taiyu or ceasefire)

if your talking about trap hole, it will only work on def monsters if light of intervention is already activated.

as for monsters special summoned during the battle phase, the attack is replayed. so if your opponant uses something like scape goat, you can either choose to replay the attack and attack a token, or just cancel the attack all together.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:20 pm


i guess i will also add another question.

If you attack a monster that has a "if attacked send to hand" effect, excluding flip effects.

ie: wall of illusions or kelbek

does that monster get destroyed? or does it survive?

Takeda Keita


RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:24 pm


in that case, the "bounce effect" monster is destroyed, but the attacking monster still gets returned to the owner's hand
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:36 pm


lol i have a question its been bugging me

ok say if your monster attacks and my oppnt activates magical cylinder
can i activate book of moon and change my monster to defense mode and if so will i still take damage
same goes for compulsory evacuation device just swap it for book of moon

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:45 pm


KugetsukiRobChan
lol i have a question its been bugging me

ok say if your monster attacks and my oppnt activates magical cylinder
can i activate book of moon and change my monster to defense mode and if so will i still take damage
same goes for compulsory evacuation device just swap it for book of moon



If you use Book of Moon or Compulsory on the target of Magic Cylinder, Cylinder's effect disappears.

Example:

Player A attacks with Sangan.
Player B activates Magic Cylinder.
Player A chains Book of Moon / Compulsory Evacuation Device. Sangan is flipped face-down / sent to Player A's hand and Magic Cylinder just goes to the graveyard without doing damage.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:09 am


xxxrandallxxx
in that case, the "bounce effect" monster is destroyed, but the attacking monster still gets returned to the owner's hand


only if the monster attacking kelbek or wall of illusion has more attack then their defense of course.


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