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 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:47 am
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8628974I read this post a while ago, and it honestly scares me. It does, because I see it first hand. I've seen this happen, boys who have turned into broken men, violent, scared of women. I was, at one point, hateful of the other sex. They had privileges, etiquette and courtesy seemingly favored them, and no matter how much trouble they caused, they were untouchable.
Honestly, if not for my parents, I would've grown apathetic, hateful of them, violent and prone to lashing out at them. My past is not unique to me. I've seen this happen too much, and it saddens me. I was, as were many of my fellow males, mistreated and judged, based on things that we didn't do, we were stereotypically portrayed as criminals, rapists and womenbeaters.
Many people ask me what I think of women. My immediate thought is "liars, traitors, hateful, jealous, petty and they bicker amongst themselves. They have no respect for themselves or others, and are supeficial beings". Then, I think "wait, that's not the mayority, why should I judge them as such? Some are really bad, but I've met wonderful women through the course of my life. I should keep that in mind" Can you really blame me for thinking such things, if it's what I saw (and still see) in them?
To women everywhere, I have a request. Whenever you see girl statting that we are criminals, brutes, dumb and weak, etc., stop her. Not for the sake of men, no. For your own sake. Because when we see that sort of behavior, our respect for you diminishes, while hate and fear grow in its place.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:18 pm
Personally I do not think that masculenity is bad. I, in fact, encourage it. There's so much support for girls to do everything, yet men often get ignored because people seem to think that the definition of "man" should just stay "traditional" and not move on with the 21st century.
I disagree.
Men need to have their own place that is defined as one of respect, not because they are men, but because there are options available to them in order for them to gain similar privileges and rights as women have gained in the modern world.
For example, why can't men be "sexy" in quite the same way that women are allowed to?
This irks both me and my fiance to no end. Sometimes HE wants to have the sexy outfit to impress me, or to wear something special to make my heart go ga-ga, but the lack of male "sexiness" is appalling. Men want to FEEL sexy, and not by dressing up like girls in tight clothing with long hair and make up.
I really really support a "modern masculenity" movement that doesn't have to backlash against women, but be a separate entity, finding a modern male's place in society, and making it OK for men to be a plethora of different personas from emotional to stoic to something else that hasn't be seen yet.
Personally, whenever someone (male or female) starts badmouthing the other gender/sex, I will say my piece. And that is: men and women can't just keep talking about who is worse. This is a circular and unhealthy argument to say the least. There are no winners in the "who has it worse" debate, only divisions.
What we need to do is to work together, to find new alternatives and new healthy modes of acting relating to one another.
I refuse to believe that someone's worth is COMPLETELY dependant on their genitalia or their muscle mass or their ability to reproduce.
It is only with the realization that we have all been at fault at one time or another, that we can settle our bickering and figure out what to do to MAKE IT BETTER.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:46 pm
*looks and laughs* It's funny, they've fought this for so many years now, and now look where they stand.
They've become what they've hated most; oppressive, punishing of the weak minded, and reducing their opponenets to bowing to their every need and desire.
It's like a mirror version of the 50's is happening in front of our eyes.
I guess its true, while some freedom figters fight for true equality, there are others who want nothing more than total dominance, which they now are very close to getting.
Look at the media now, and look at what was popular.
I remember watching The Man Show and watching all that male hormone driven bullshit going on and wondering why and how it got so popular and stayed for as long as it did.
Now I see why, they could be everything society says men can't, strong minded, beer swilling, arrogent sons o' bitches who wanted dinner on the table and the women rubbing their feet when they got home.
In short, they felt like a man. (as defined in the 50's) They could let themselves express their manliness, and they could do what they pleased without worrying about being "Politically Correct" (which is a term I DESPISE, by the way) Nowdays, you can't do anything (if you're a man) and not have it classified as some sort of action to hurt or harrass a woman.
And while I do strogly believe that women should have a fair shake at everything a man does, so should a man. They live, they breathe, they feel, aren't they basically the same as a woman?
Some days I can't stand this "Equal rights" guise they use to push their move to dominance even further on the people...
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:33 pm
wow... just wow...
As I observe men in my high school grow less and less sucure with there mascuilinity. Then this pops up. I am a man,I am Bi but I am very secure with my masculinity. I am old fashioned, I am chiversious women are fairer then men, they desever respect and equality. NOT DOMINACE. A woman deserves to be put before her man, but not to dominate them. *sighs and shakes his head*
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:36 pm
Jeez, my friend Arielle would be adamantly against that. She is a huge sexist (Or, she used to be, she's softening up). To be frank, I used to be as well, but now I'm softening up. I have by a lot. I feel that men and women are equal and now the protecting of women is rediculous. I mean, come on, if you really wanted to have women protect themselves, let them know that some men may do that and be prepared, but not all will. In fact, most won't. It's annoying...
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:10 pm
This is a big issue these days among much of America. I feel lucky to be in a community where such relationships tend to be fairly equal (In part because, regardless of gender, you've gotta be badass to handle an Alaska winter, which tends towards similar interests for both genders among those who live here long), but the fact is, we have things still being "Man Versus Woman", not "Man And Woman".
The Man Show was as popular as it was because it forced an idea that men are men, plain and simple. Maledom has been 'pussified' to an extreme these days; women haven't risen to be the equals of men, so much as coming to dominate in a fashion that weakens the male identity.
We need to reach a balance, or things will never really improve on this front. I believe we eventually will...
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:05 pm
You would bee surprised as of what equality means anymore. Either sexism (feminism), racism (abolition of oppression against minorities), or gay equality; they are ALL flawed and only still exist because they provide means of overpowering someone else.
If you have something that puts you over the majority, you will use it to your advantage to survive better than the rest; it's your human nature. All these political correctness are ways to overcome your weaknesses by giving guilt to those expressing the opposite simply by relying on the sheer number of people in your clique of minority or of people with the same factor you have...
I dont like it. When you treat people like they supposebly treat you, you are full of bullcrap, and I would gladly tell you.
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