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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:14 am
As a child we are told stories from which we learn and fear.Little red riding hood, hansle and grettle, and some times Baba Yaga if your Russian.Stories of children taken in the night by monster who live in the woods, old hags and trolls who ate children.
A world of beauty and madness is beside our own, believe it or not the Fae are watching....the stories are true....and if you catch their eyes you may be next.....
Some times the Fae would bring children and anyone that caught their eye back into their realm with them, to act as slaves, food, or worse.These humans taken from their homes and families, are now slaves who take on the form of their captors as time passes.They become changelings, part Fae and part human.They claw back through the barrier between worlds to find theyre family is dead or a time it self has passed to far from when they here stolen.They must live with what they are now, neither fully human or Fae.They protect the mortals as best they can from the Fae, so no one else has to go through what they had too...
Can the Fae and Changeling be included into a steampunk worlds shadow, along with the other monsters of the night.
I want opinions and thoughts?
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:41 am
I'm pretty sure anything is possible...I mean, I've formed stories called the Fallout wars where a steam energy source called ether was used to make a drug called superadine that mutated people.
I've also seen orcs, elves and the likes included in steampunk fantasies...so why not dark beings?
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:14 pm
In a real world sense those are Fae too.Fae are fairy and faery folk.
Elves, goblin, trolls, hags, kobolds, etc.
Im trying to figure out if a changeling who's escaped, can survive in a steampunk world, protecting children and adults from the Fae who would capture them.
In my writing of steampunk, people hear stories of werewolves and vampires and of mages and warlocks.Theey exist but hide until night, where they go off to fight or hunt.
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:30 pm
That actually reminds me of a series of short stories I wrote called the brass Junctions ><
It's where everybody had all these stories, and adventurers always pass down these tales of orcs, elves, beings of magic and mystery, and that the beings lived in brass forests deep within deserts.
That's where the origin of steam tech. came from in my stories, and... non-humans would hide, elves would dirty their faces and mess up their hair and wear large bonnets and bandanas to make themselves less attractive and stuff. trolls under bridges, etc.
soooo I'm pretty sure your story will work :]
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:51 am
Freedom the wolf As a child we are told stories from which we learn and fear.Little red riding hood, hansle and grettle, and some times Baba Yaga if your Russian.Stories of children taken in the night by monster who live in the woods, old hags and trolls who ate children. Can the Fae and Changeling be included into a steampunk worlds shadow, along with the other monsters of the night. I want opinions and thoughts? Ever hear of "Nockers"? Also called "knackers" and a few other names which I unfortunately forget, they work in Cornish and Welsh mines alongside miners, hence their name--from the "knocking" sounds their tools make when they mine for copper, tin, and other metals. They are said to be highly skilled with mechanical equipment such as steam engines and power drills, amongst others, and there are two conflicting stories about them--one is that they can't stand foul language used around them, and will cause cave-ins or mislead anyone foolish enough to curse in a mine where they live and work; the other is that they're some of the most foul-mouthed creatures in existence (although they're surprisingly good-natured), and swear almost constantly due to the constant frustration at the fact that no matter how well-constructed the device they make, it always contains one fatal flaw... In White Wolf Games Studio's RPG, Changeling: the Dreaming, Nockers are described as "masters of machines, and everyone knows it", even having the ability to intimidate malfunctioning machinery into working once again with a few choice threats and a tap of the hammer or two. In a steampunk setting, nockers would be the ultimate craftsmen (and craftswomen; why be sexist?) of the Faerie folk, and would regularly interact with humans to keep up with (and make regular improvements on) the latest new inventions, taking new technologies back to their people regularly and creating elaborate devices powered by both magic and Victorian-era power sources such as electricity, steam, coal, etc. And let's not forget Govannon (Welsh name) or Goibhniu (Irish name), the blacksmith and metalworker of the Tuatha de Danaan (the ancient race of Celtic gods and goddesses who gave rise to the different Faerie races in the British Isles), who (amongst other accomplishments) built a silver-skinned mechanical arm similar to the automail arms of Fullmetal Alchemist for Nuada, who lost his original flesh-and-blood arm in battle and needed a replacement--sort of a "god of steampunk", if you will... >^_^<
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:48 pm
Who's to say that someone's experiments can't accidentally weaken/lower the veil between that kept the Fae apart or accidentally break some ancient covenant that kept them hidden and from influencing humanity? Gremlins would love to get lose in a steampunk setting.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:54 pm
Kitirena Freedom the wolf As a child we are told stories from which we learn and fear.Little red riding hood, hansle and grettle, and some times Baba Yaga if your Russian.Stories of children taken in the night by monster who live in the woods, old hags and trolls who ate children. Can the Fae and Changeling be included into a steampunk worlds shadow, along with the other monsters of the night. I want opinions and thoughts? Ever hear of "Nockers"? Also called "knackers" and a few other names which I unfortunately forget, they work in Cornish and Welsh mines alongside miners, hence their name--from the "knocking" sounds their tools make when they mine for copper, tin, and other metals. They are said to be highly skilled with mechanical equipment such as steam engines and power drills, amongst others, and there are two conflicting stories about them--one is that they can't stand foul language used around them, and will cause cave-ins or mislead anyone foolish enough to curse in a mine where they live and work; the other is that they're some of the most foul-mouthed creatures in existence (although they're surprisingly good-natured), and swear almost constantly due to the constant frustration at the fact that no matter how well-constructed the device they make, it always contains one fatal flaw... In White Wolf Games Studio's RPG, Changeling: the Dreaming, Nockers are described as "masters of machines, and everyone knows it", even having the ability to intimidate malfunctioning machinery into working once again with a few choice threats and a tap of the hammer or two. In a steampunk setting, nockers would be the ultimate craftsmen (and craftswomen; why be sexist?) of the Faerie folk, and would regularly interact with humans to keep up with (and make regular improvements on) the latest new inventions, taking new technologies back to their people regularly and creating elaborate devices powered by both magic and Victorian-era power sources such as electricity, steam, coal, etc. And let's not forget Govannon (Welsh name) or Goibhniu (Irish name), the blacksmith and metalworker of the Tuatha de Danaan (the ancient race of Celtic gods and goddesses who gave rise to the different Faerie races in the British Isles), who (amongst other accomplishments) built a silver-skinned mechanical arm similar to the automail arms of Fullmetal Alchemist for Nuada, who lost his original flesh-and-blood arm in battle and needed a replacement--sort of a "god of steampunk", if you will... >^_^< ugh Changeling the Dreaming was horrible for individuality when character building the kiths seemed distinctly designed for certain classes (or term used). I'm in LOVE with the new changeling mechanics because you can literally customize your changeling into anything from myth or imagination. Take those rules only make their base universe a steampunk one or them dealing with a True Fae who's realm is steampunk/fantasy and things can get awfully trippy
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:16 pm
@Akonite: I got the new C:tL books from a friend, since his parents kinda were against the idea of it.((Catholic's hate the idea of magic >.>))The only Seeming that seemed like would fit in a steampunk wolrd would be the elemental, and maybe the Wizend.
I looked through the old Changeling: the Dreaming book and each kith was like a different role of a group, and nothing more so I dont like its way of explaining things.
The idea of Grimlins running around destroying things sounds fun.I'd have to figure out what they woould be doing there, and how they got there though.
@Kitirena:Nockers, I've heard of but never went to high detail of it.I now need to find a book on faries and folklore >.>
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:29 am
Akonite Kitirena In White Wolf Games Studio's RPG, Changeling: the Dreaming, Nockers are described as "masters of machines, and everyone knows it", even having the ability to intimidate malfunctioning machinery into working once again with a few choice threats and a tap of the hammer or two. ugh Changeling the Dreaming was horrible for individuality when character building the kiths seemed distinctly designed for certain classes (or term used). I'm in LOVE with the new changeling mechanics because you can literally customize your changeling into anything from myth or imagination. Take those rules only make their base universe a steampunk one or them dealing with a True Fae who's realm is steampunk/fantasy and things can get awfully trippy Hmm... I haven't played the new Changeling (or any of the other games in the "new and improved" system, for that matter) yet, so I can't say. I only referred to C:tD's Nocker Kithain as an example of Nockers/Knackers/etc. in general, actually, answering Freedom's initial question of would Faerie fit into a Steampunk setting. Obviously, the answer is: depends on whether you use Tolkien-esque elves, dwarves, etc., or if you go back to the original sources that Prof. Tolkien himself used when writing The Hobbit, "Smith of Wooton Major" (I think I spelled that right...), etc. Freedom the wolf Nockers, I've heard of but never went to high detail of it.I now need to find a book on faries and folklore >.> One place to start is The Encyclopedia of Things that Never Were, since that's where I first heard of nockers myself, actually. Excellent book IMHO because it has a lot of information on different races of Faerie and other "mythical" creatures, imaginary (?) places such as Prester John's Country and the Land of the Waynims, and so forth. (I need to replace my copy, in fact... Bloody gits that cleaned out my storage unit without my permission, grumble grumble...) Also try checking Wikipedia.org and related sites--if all anyone here knows of Faerie is that they're little boys and girls with butterfly wings on their backs, well.... (evil chuckle) As an aside about Faerie in general, did you know that the fairy tales most of us grew up with, such as Hansel & Gretel, were actually "cleaned up" for public consumption during the Victorian era? Chase down a copy of Grimm's Grimmest or another book on fairy tails pre-Victorian era and you'll see what I mean! Better than a good penny dreadful, wot? >-_^<
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:43 pm
Freedom the wolf Nockers, I've heard of but never went to high detail of it.I now need to find a book on faries and folklore >.> One place to start is The Encyclopedia of Things that Never Were, since that's where I first heard of nockers myself, actually. Excellent book IMHO because it has a lot of information on different races of Faerie and other "mythical" creatures, imaginary (?) places such as Prester John's Country and the Land of the Waynims, and so forth. (I need to replace my copy, in fact... Bloody gits that cleaned out my storage unit without my permission, grumble grumble...) Also try checking Wikipedia.org and related sites--if all anyone here knows of Faerie is that they're little boys and girls with butterfly wings on their backs, well.... (evil chuckle) As an aside about Faerie in general, did you know that the fairy tales most of us grew up with, such as Hansel & Gretel, were actually "cleaned up" for public consumption during the Victorian era? Chase down a copy of Grimm's Grimmest or another book on fairy tails pre-Victorian era and you'll see what I mean! Better than a good penny dreadful, wot? >-_^< I'l have to order those books, next time I go to Barnes&Nobles. Wikipedia didnt work that well, but I got some info on the knocker and related creatures. Modern fairy tales are watered down, I know that.I have a copy of the real brothers Grimms fairy tales on the way.I've had my eye on it for a while, final got the cash.(likes hard back copies more durable)But yeah, when most people think"Faries" its winged people who play in gardens.I was raised around fairy tales and folklore and horror.So when I skimmed through the real brothers grimms fairytales I knew what was missing from the revised tales.
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:52 am
Freedom the wolf Kitirena One place to start is The Encyclopedia of Things that Never Were, since that's where I first heard of nockers myself, actually. Excellent book IMHO because it has a lot of information on different races of Faerie and other "mythical" creatures, imaginary (?) places such as Prester John's Country and the Land of the Waynims, and so forth. (I need to replace my copy, in fact... Bloody gits that cleaned out my storage unit without my permission, grumble grumble...) Also try checking Wikipedia.org and related sites--if all anyone here knows of Faerie is that they're little boys and girls with butterfly wings on their backs, well.... (evil chuckle) As an aside about Faerie in general, did you know that the fairy tales most of us grew up with, such as Hansel & Gretel, were actually "cleaned up" for public consumption during the Victorian era? Chase down a copy of Grimm's Grimmest or another book on fairy tails pre-Victorian era and you'll see what I mean! Better than a good penny dreadful, wot? >-_^< I'l have to order those books, next time I go to Barnes&Nobles. Wikipedia didnt work that well, but I got some info on the knocker and related creatures. Modern fairy tales are watered down, I know that.I have a copy of the real brothers Grimms fairy tales on the way.I've had my eye on it for a while, final got the cash.(likes hard back copies more durable)But yeah, when most people think"Faries" its winged people who play in gardens.I was raised around fairy tales and folklore and horror.So when I skimmed through the real brothers grimms fairytales I knew what was missing from the revised tales. Aren't they great? I also recommend Jim Henson's The Storyteller for the same reason--Henson's folk chose lesser-known variations of some interesting fairy tales and brought them to life, so you get closer to the original versions than the "bowdlerized" versions we know from our childhoods, nyao--all of which date from the Victorian era that we all love so much, ironically enough. But when you do as Prof. Tolkien did, and go back to the original source material, you really see what you've been missing, and it's pretty good stuff!
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:19 am
I dont see why the Fae couldnt be included in a steampunk environment. It actually makes sence to me to include them not least because they were popularised again during Victorian England (At least in the books I have read)
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