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 Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:06 am
I'm sorry if I'm bothering anyone, but in an earlier post I said that I would be taking an elementary Japanese class in the summer, but it turns out that I need to drop it in order to take an English class that I need in order to graduate college (darn you, gen-ed!).
I've been learning Japanese little by little since I was 11, and now that I'm 18...I think I've fallen behind a lot. I have CD roms and a Japanese dictionary, but I can't really write (the hiragana and kanji) or read the language or understand most of the grammar (I understand it when it's spoken, just not when it's written out). crying
If it isn't too much trouble, how many hours would I have to study each day in order to complete that 7-8 week course of elementary Japanese...? Or rather, how many hours each day would I have to study to at least pass the beginner level? Would anyone like to recommend any books to help me catch up?
Please forgive me for being so selfish... =(
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:10 pm
I personally don't think it's how long you study, but how smart. If you study in a way that the information sticks with you it shouldn't matter how long or short your study time is. Just remember that you have a lot of resources available, both online and off, use them and use them well
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:09 pm
Self study is pointless.
You will be able to get to a certain level and then you will not be able to progress any furthur without proper schooling.
I have self studied for 3 years and am only at intermediate level.
i learned more at my language school in 3 months than i did in the 3 years.
Learn hirigana and katakana and then use www.smart.fm for an hpur a day until you can afford to go to a proper language school.
if you go to a language school 5 days a week for 4 hours a day you should be able to speak pretty good japanese within about 2 years.
This is just my personal opinion.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:33 pm
I know everyone says this but you really need to take a class. I have a text book I tried to study from for over a year and I think I got through about 5 chapters that I could comfortably understand. When I finally had the time to sign up for a class I realized that I understood it but only superficially. There are just things you need a teacher for. Plus with the kanji I actually have a better understanding of how they come together to make a word which I never got just from learning stroke order. In my opinion you need to learn from a native speaker, no amount of self study will prepare you for real life japanese.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:31 pm
Thank you for your help, everyone!
I will study at home during this summer and then take a class when I actually can (I wish my class schedule wasn't so demanding TAT).
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:32 am
Santhor Shin Self study is pointless. You will be able to get to a certain level and then you will not be able to progress any furthur without proper schooling. I have self studied for 3 years and am only at intermediate level. I tend to disagree about self study is pointless. Just about all of the Japanese I do is self study, and cause of it I'm up to intermediate. And I've been doing this self study for about a year now and it's helped greatly. I will agree with you that proper schooling is needed once you've gotten to a certain point. And as for Seichinoyami, I'd recommend Japanese for Busy People. I've gone through 1, 2, and I'm close to completing 3. I'm unsure where you get the roomaji version of the books, but the kana versions are at thejapanshop.com.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:09 pm
It's easy to say "take a Japanese class." But I've found that impossible to do. I have researched into it and the only schools within a 50 mile radius around where I live only teach up to intermediate Japanese. And all of these are at least a half an hour away anyways. I could only find one nearby language school that offers Japanese and it doesn't offer classes for minors (I'm 16 but in a program where I take college courses). There's also the option of studying abroad, but that costs $10,000 USD just for a semester, which I would much rather spend on college. I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible to learn Japanese without majoring in it sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:47 pm
Ukryu It's easy to say "take a Japanese class." But I've found that impossible to do. I have researched into it and the only schools within a 50 mile radius around where I live only teach up to intermediate Japanese. And all of these are at least a half an hour away anyways. I could only find one nearby language school that offers Japanese and it doesn't offer classes for minors (I'm 16 but in a program where I take college courses). There's also the option of studying abroad, but that costs $10,000 USD just for a semester, which I would much rather spend on college. I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible to learn Japanese without majoring in it sweatdrop There's always online classes. Be sure the teachers are reputable though, as that's the kind of money you won't be getting from the man to pay for so you can take it. One I highly recommend is Japanesepod101.com, particularly the 1 year Platinum Package. A bit pricy, but it's well worth all the stuff you have access to over the course of the year(I actually plan to get it myself once I can save up enough)
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:30 am
Classes can help with speaking, but over all, self study is probably better. As long as you have good methods and study regularly, of course.
Check this site for some self-study ideas http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/all-japanese-all-the-time-ajatt-how-to-learn-japanese-on-your-own-having-fun-and-to-fluency
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