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 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:55 am
[.teh.shmexeh.] Well, as Angel Of Caring has explained, anyone that does not have Christ in their hearts and believe He is their Lord and saviour and that he lives is basically following satan. It even says it in the bible. Mat 6:24 "No one can serve two masters. He will hate the first master and love the second, or he will be devoted to the first and despise the second. You cannot serve God and wealth. So if your friend is following the Wiccan ways, then he is basically turning his back to God. But again, you shouldn't talk to him about these things unless you are spiritually ready or when you feel is the right time to tell him about these things. Other than that, you should still love him as your friend.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:14 am
windswept_fury Isoude Being a wiccan's not a bad thing. Just because their religion is seemingly a "pagan" one does not make it evil, and it does not mean that that person that has converted to this religion needs any form of "help". That all depends on your views. To a Christian, being a Wiccan is bad, because they obviously do not have the same beliefs. Not believing the same thing in and of itself is not wrong, but the fact is that we Christians believe that if you don't believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, and your Lord and Savior, who died on the cross to save everyone from their sins, you're gonna go to Hell. windswept_fury Isoude The Wiccan religion has many of the same moral values of Christianity. If you hurt someone, it is immoral and you will face the consequences. It is not a "devil worship" religion in ANY way, and indeed, it promotes goodness of heart and morals, although its means for doing so may be different than those of Christianity. There is one HUGE difference - Wiccan's don't believe in the ONE thing that makes Christianity. Jesus. Oh, and God. If I'm correct, they believe in the Goddess, as well as several others. I could be wrong, though. It's a very nature based form of witchcraft, but witchcraft nonetheless.
As for what they believe, some believe in just a Goddess, but alot belive in both a God and a Goddess. Pagans . . . are the ones who believe and or pray to different pantheons of multiple gods. And even then, not all of them, we have pagans who believe in one God as well, it's called being Monotheistic.
Monotheistic = Belive in One God
Polytheistic = Believing in multiple Gods / Multiple aspects of One God
Pantheistic = Believing in a group of specified Gods, Goddesses, Entities of a specific culture.windswept_fury Isoude Saying someone needs help because they are not Christian anymore is a form of stereotyping and discrimination. Good Christians should be accepting of everyone regardless of their choice for religious belief - unless, of course, it is harmful to themselves or others. (Being Wiccan is not.) It's really not a form of stereotyping or discrimination. And "good Christian" really isn't the right term. It's more of " true Christian". Yes, we should accept them, and care about them. Part of caring about them includes thinking about their welfare, in this life, and after. And, since we believe that if you don't believe in Jesus, we also believe that if you don't, you'll go to Hell. So, it's only natural that he'd care about, and want to help his friend.
Your safe in your religion, and I am safe in mine. So . . . what's the problem? Why would you want to be so disrepectful to people who are different? No everyones family comes from judeo-christian descent. Some of us are born in other countries than America and England xp So basically your telling a Buddhist, THE MOST peaceful religion on the earth, that because they don't except Jesus as their savior, that their going to hell. Even though, they don't need to be saved because their more peaceful, generous, & thoughtful of others, than you have been in the entirety of your life?? Um . . . does anybody else find something wrong with this?Quote: Isoude So, if I were you, I would stop worrying and be supportive of your friend. Most likely they are just experimenting and/or going through a phase that they will eventually grow out of. If you can't be supportive, then at least don't SHOW that you're unsupportive, as it may hurt your friend's self-esteem and feelings, and harm your relationship. I don't know about his friend, but my friends take some hard truths from me. If I don't approve of it, I let them know. They don't have to follow my advice or listen to me. They just know how I feel about the situation.
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:00 pm
Your freind is misguided. Of this I am sure. But I think sometimes, we shift the focus off of ourselves onto someone else. Here's an example:
When hearing a message in church, have you ever thought to yourself, "I sure am glad they are preaching this today because ~~~ needs to hear this," when you really should be applying the message to your life?
As far as I'm concerned, your friend can wait. Can you share with me your testimony first?
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:21 am
brad175 Your freind is misguided. Of this I am sure. Quote: But I think sometimes, we shift the focus off of ourselves onto someone else. Here's an example: When hearing a message in church, have you ever thought to yourself, "I sure am glad they are preaching this today because ~~~ needs to hear this," when you really should be applying the message to your life? Quote: As far as I'm concerned, your friend can wait. Can you share with me your testimony first?
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