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lymelady
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:26 pm


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Oh, my.

Many a debate have I participated in, in which pro-choice opponents have insisted on calling me and everyone else who is "pro-life" as the immortal "ANTI-CHOICE", all the while justifying to me calling themselves pro-choice. You're not pro-every-choice (including euthenasia, murder, or shirt color) just as I'm not, say, "Pro-all-bacteria-life" or "pro-phytoplankton".

Sigh, yawn, and get over it choicers. Let's embrace the terms we're very comfortable with debating with, and get on with the debate, because they waste a lot of time with semantics.

Pro-Abortion, Pro-death, Anti-Woman, Anti-sex, Anti-feminist, etc...

They're all charged terms, solely determined to elicit a more visceral reaction than was necessary. Hard to debate with that high level of neutrality, sometimes, but you should at least avoid avoid justifying those kinds of terms if you know why you're using them in the manner that you are.


What's with the post going all over the place lately? It's confusing.

Anyways I noticed something. Every time we use a word in debate such as baby, human, etc....they say we are using emotional ploy yet they think there is nothing wrong using words such as anti-women, anti-choice, parasite, etc...why is that?

I don't really debate much anymore because how it seems so unfair and unbalanced. I try to use medical facts but everyone dismisses it and just say a bunch of things that are far from facts (some really need to learn biology and what a real parasite is).
xd some girl in my bio lab class tried to say a fetus was a parasite and the teacher just looked at her like she was the biggest idiot in the world and very slowly explained interspecific relationships and how this girl clearly didn't do the reading.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:53 am


lymelady
Bitter_Medicine
McPhee
Oh, my.

Many a debate have I participated in, in which pro-choice opponents have insisted on calling me and everyone else who is "pro-life" as the immortal "ANTI-CHOICE", all the while justifying to me calling themselves pro-choice. You're not pro-every-choice (including euthenasia, murder, or shirt color) just as I'm not, say, "Pro-all-bacteria-life" or "pro-phytoplankton".

Sigh, yawn, and get over it choicers. Let's embrace the terms we're very comfortable with debating with, and get on with the debate, because they waste a lot of time with semantics.

Pro-Abortion, Pro-death, Anti-Woman, Anti-sex, Anti-feminist, etc...

They're all charged terms, solely determined to elicit a more visceral reaction than was necessary. Hard to debate with that high level of neutrality, sometimes, but you should at least avoid avoid justifying those kinds of terms if you know why you're using them in the manner that you are.


What's with the post going all over the place lately? It's confusing.

Anyways I noticed something. Every time we use a word in debate such as baby, human, etc....they say we are using emotional ploy yet they think there is nothing wrong using words such as anti-women, anti-choice, parasite, etc...why is that?

I don't really debate much anymore because how it seems so unfair and unbalanced. I try to use medical facts but everyone dismisses it and just say a bunch of things that are far from facts (some really need to learn biology and what a real parasite is).
xd some girl in my bio lab class tried to say a fetus was a parasite and the teacher just looked at her like she was the biggest idiot in the world and very slowly explained interspecific relationships and how this girl clearly didn't do the reading.


As embarrassing as that might of been for her, maybe she learned something (or at least try reading next time).

I know they probably wouldn't make in some of the classes I took as not only we had to read the text books but do a lot of research for either righting papers or just write a little explanation on some subjects. And yes it shows if people didn't do their reading or research.

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